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Old Dec 13th, 2015, 06:30 AM   41
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Welcome to the page Nim.. Wow you've been trying a long time too. My friend said to me it takes a certain type of couple to try for a really long time.
It's weird they can tell you what date your egg collection will be in Feb. I read that correctly didn't i? My clinic I didn't know until they saw my ultrasounds and told me in would be in two days and to do the trigger.

Kat - I hope you do get back to horse riding! I've only risen once or twice as a kid just being walked around. When u was travelling in Columbia (few years ago) I thought I'd do a day or horse riding. Worst experience ever! Was raining all day, my Spanish wasn't the best and man the horse bolted off a few times. This family (if gauchos) from Argentina was on the tour too and had to save me a few times. They of course found this hilarious!

I'm the same I wouldn't risk it! I think people who do and the ones who got pregnant really easily and don't think about all that stuff. Im even worried about flying - I heard you can up till 27 weeks. All this bloody ttc business has meant your life goes on hold for a bit and we'd love to get away for a short trip, when I am pregnant. We'll see. Cross that bridge when we come to it I guess!



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Old Dec 13th, 2015, 08:02 AM   42
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Thanks Miranda yes they have me on a drug so that they can time when to start the cycle and know roughly how many days I will stim for from previous experience of my ovaries but it's only a rough date it could be before or after by a few days either way. It all seems an age away still lol!!! I was worried about flying too but I think in your middle tri it's really quite safe x



 
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Old Dec 13th, 2015, 15:30 PM   43
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Kat - I hope you do get back to horse riding! I've only risen once or twice as a kid just being walked around. When u was travelling in Columbia (few years ago) I thought I'd do a day or horse riding. Worst experience ever! Was raining all day, my Spanish wasn't the best and man the horse bolted off a few times. This family (if gauchos) from Argentina was on the tour too and had to save me a few times. They of course found this hilarious!

I'm the same I wouldn't risk it! I think people who do and the ones who got pregnant really easily and don't think about all that stuff. Im even worried about flying - I heard you can up till 27 weeks. All this bloody ttc business has meant your life goes on hold for a bit and we'd love to get away for a short trip, when I am pregnant. We'll see. Cross that bridge when we come to it I guess!

Yeah I can imagine you'd need to be a fairly decent rider to do something like that. DH and I could never do it as he's only tried being on a pony being led around so it'd be too much of a challenge for him But I could imagine it would be fun to try something like that otherwise! It's crazy though that they didn't give you an old nag that wouldn't mind just plodding along and is practically impossible to get going, given your experience level

Yep, people that get easily pregnant just don't think about it. Plus they must be super arrogant about their abilities if they don't think they can fall off! Even the best fall of sometimes Even at my skill level I wouldn't do it and I think I rode from age 9 to 21 (although did have 2-3 years where I didn't ride, long story) and fallen 7-8 times total if I remember correctly. You just never know, the horse could get super spooked and you're caught unawares and fall off, tried it once (the most recent of my falls) where the horse bucked out with his back legs and went super nuts and it can be hard to stay on in that situation.

Oh I'll definitely start again at one point. We're going to move out of the city in the near future to an area where there are plenty of riding schools and such. Unfortunately could never afford to get my own horse though, it's just so expensive, especially in this country I used to entertain the idea of competing again but think it's hard if you can't afford your own horse so not counting on it happening.

Flying I'd also prefer to avoid totally if possible but we don't fly much anyway so it won't be a problem



 
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Old Dec 13th, 2015, 18:35 PM   44
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god damn people who get pregnant at the drop of a hat! Argh!!! Oh well we'll appreciate our babies so much more when they do come!

So I was reading the IVF success stories thread and under 'things you'd wish you had done' someone posted -"i wish we had told everyone that we weren't going to tell people if it worked or it didn't work until the 3 month mark. This was really annoying as we had people asking if it worked."

Our friends know we're doing IVF - some don't know a lot of details - my close friends do. My family I haven't kept updated - well I was keeping my mum updated every step until she thought it was fine for my little sister to tell me she was pregnant on my birthday during the whole stim cycle so actually still mad at her - and told her no more updates. I feel a bit uncomfortable around my in laws (they're nice just awkward/ hard to talk to/ she's asked me twice last year "you're not pregnant now are you" when i didn't drink etc. thanks no I'm not! And my husband has been updating them - which I don't really like but whatever. I said to him you don't know what it's like that whole year when we were trying I can feel people look at what I'm drinking and not eating and it really annoyed me. I even got a few glances down at my stomach. Yeah great thanks! everyone else gets that space of 3 months where they keep it a secret - why shouldn't we be any different. So I think I'm going to take that girls advice and tell the few people who know we're putting one in we won't be telling anyone regardless until the 3 month mark. I mean obviously if it's good news it will be hard to keep in to say my best friend - but I feel by saying that just gives me the allowance of not feeling friend's/ his family will ask - and we can decide to tell them in our own time.



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Old Dec 14th, 2015, 03:09 AM   45
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Miranda its very annoying when people fall pregnant very easily! More frustrating i guess.. 2 of my best friends both fell pregnant 1 month after starting to try for a baby.. and here i am 4.5 years no protection no nothing and still no baby!!

Sorry rant incoming

My close friends know ive done ivf and my family does too, although i waited until i was doing my second stim cycle to tell me sister.. she is a nasty woman who after i told her everything she turned around and said to my bestfrien that "its all too draining listening to me talk about ivf and my journey" but its ok for her to tell me all about her daughtes baby.. her daughter who had a baby 6 months ago at the age of 16! Which was the same age as my sister when she her my neice.. the apple clearly doesnt fall far from that tree..

Everytime i talk to my sister she changes the subject and starts sending me pics of the baby and generally rubbing it in my face! When my neice fell pregnant i was the last to know put of all of my 5 brothers and sisters.. and my lovely sister said " oh i cant wait to see the look on Cassies face when i tell her chantelle is pregnant, its going to be Priceless!" So found out when she was 12 week along.. and then she said oh shes thinking of adopting the baby to you.. and then 2 days later took.it back like it was nothing.. and wss like oh it was just a suggestion.. like they were dangling a baby in my face knowing i want one so bad and im trying my hardest..but just cant have one..

In other news i start my progynova next week and im booked in for my lining scan on the 13th of january! Hopefully i will be transferring on the 15/16th. Im getting so exited i cant wait.



 
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Old Dec 14th, 2015, 03:45 AM   46
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Hi ladies 💐

Ugh I so agree it's totally unfair & these people have zero consideration for feelings. I was out with a close friend Friday who is due any time number 2 she got pregnant within 2-3 months of trying this time I'm not sure first time as I know she had a mc then got pg again relatively quickly. She knows all my story and regularly asks but still couldn't stop talking about having number 3 and she better give certain months of the year a miss as she now has 2 Xmas babies! Grrrr insensitive! They have no idea!

I have also previously been open about my journey but now only my mother in law knows we are doing IVF - she is lovely and I had to tell her as she works with us and is going to look after Harrison for me if needed. I just can't cope with the constant oh you will be fine - it will just happen naturally - you just need to relax about it...😡😡 so it's a secret here! Not sure how I'm going to explain my fridge full of needles to my family at Xmas tho...

Miranda that was really cruel of your mum/sister so sorry !! I just don't think they get it - at all!!!

Caddie oh my goodness I can't believe they are like that with you that is beyond insensitive - how dare they play with your emotions like that! It's a hard enough time as it is without family making it harder!! So sorry!!

No news here still waiting for AF then have to wait till CD21 to start norethisterone then base line scan day 1-3 of bleed. ⏳tick tock seems an age away lol.

Hope you all have a good day.



 
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Old Dec 14th, 2015, 06:28 AM   47
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Hi girls!

Dear god, I feel like I've got loads to catch up on in this thread because I haven't been online for 3 days!

Welcome to the new ladies!

Kat, so sorry to hear that you had a CP. A CP I can imagine is tough anyhow but especially when you're doing an IVF cycle. I didn't get any sign of a positive with my first cycle so like the girls said, it's showing that your body is trying to get pregnant! I think it'll work for you for sure next time!

Nimbec, we too have been trying for 2 1/2 years. Your EC date sounds round about the same time that we will be transferring our frozen embaby

We started out with nobody knowing about our situation. In fact I think we TTC in secret for almost 18 months before telling anyone. At that point I had to unload onto my mum. I just cried and cried and let everything out that I had been holding in for so long. My close family now know and my mother in law knows too. It's good to have people to talk to, I don't think I could go through this journey alone.

CD22 for me today and it's our final natural TTC cycle before the IVF journey begins again. It'd be amazing if it worked on this final cycle so we didn't have to spend a fortune again to transfer though I am not feeling hopeful!

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Old Dec 14th, 2015, 08:13 AM   48
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miranda: So sorry people are being so annoying Maybe try some of these answers:

http://infertility.about.com/od/copi...ngwhenkids.htm

http://www.rmanj.com/2014/11/30-best...es-going-kids/

Don't be afriad to enforce boundaries and tell them when they're being hurtful. You don't need that right now!

Cassie: Your sister sounds toxic! I have a number of toxic people in my family (my mother, aunt (mother's sister), 2 older brothers and my older sister plus it sounds like my mother's mother was also toxic) so know how that goes I highly suspect they all have Narcissistic Personality Disorder with the 1 brother being the most malignant. I'm the chosen family scapegoat despite being the youngest My best advice would be to stop talking to her about you going through IVF, especially the emotional stuff. She sounds like she's delighting in your pain which many with e.g. NPD do (they're not called emotional vampires for nothing). Don't give her anything emotionally, brush things off and say everything's going great and you'll let her know when there's something to tell, then change the subject to something that interests her e.g her baby. When she starts talking about her baby, listen for a few minutes feigning interest so she can't say you don't care and then say you need to be somewhere and will talk later. Maybe cut down on your contact with her in general? You need to protect your emotional well-being, especially when going through IVF. I've been giving the polite brush off to my toxic siblings for a while now and they've been leaving me alone for some months now which I'm super grateful for. I can't handle them making my infertility about them and my extra malignant brother constantly putting me down in his condescending, arrogant manner and being cruel whenever I try to enforce healthy, normal boundaries.

nimbec: Sorry about your friend, some people just don't get it Can't you hide the needles somewhere in the fridge, maybe behind a bunch of stuff?

tina: So true and I hope you're right and it'll work next time But I still found it upsetting, so close yet so far anyway

AFM I called and my HCG has of course fallen to 10 so they want me to come in for 1 last blood test on Friday They want to see it go to around 3 I think. I told her I have been bleeding red heavily since yesterday but it didn't matter, they still want me in on Friday. Today was already bad for me as I sat in the waiting room with 3 very pregnant women and then it got worse when a woman came in with her tiny new baby I barely held it together until after they took blood and then cried in the car afterwards.

I asked her if she knew about what the plan was for next IVF and she only could see they'll be putting me on the short protocol.



 
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Wow it's gone a bit quiet, how's everyone?

Not looking forward to doing my last beta tomorrow I'll just need to sit away from people and hope no one pregnant or with a newborn comes in again but that's probably too much too hope for



 
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Old Dec 17th, 2015, 05:04 AM   50
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So sorry that your going through this its such a hard thing to go through and having to keep doing blood tests to make sure your levels have gone down is evenore and more heartbreaking

Afm i start progynova next wednesday and then i am booked in my lining scan on the 13th january hopefully do the transfer a couple days later.

I have 2 embies on ice and i spoke with my fs he only wants to put back 1 becusee of my age.. but there clinic policy is if you have a failed transfer then you can transfer 2 the next time.. i know im young but next year ill be 27 and i just think ill have a better chance of atleast 1 sticking if we transfer 2. And im fully aware of multiples and the risks but im willing to take the risk.

What are your thoughts?



 
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