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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 15:03 PM   31
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Good luck with the donor inseminations. I really wish it wasn't so expensive for infertile couples to just try to create a family.
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 15:21 PM   32
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stardust~~ hi! and thank you so much! YES he has huge mood swings..more than me haha Seriously he has many of the Klinefelter traits like mood swings,depression,temper fits, very sensitive, low self esteem, etc. His T levels have always been normal according to labs, just on the low side of normal but many men with Klinefelter's have told me that they started T therapy preteen and it always helped them...anyway,he's had 3 injections so far and seems to actually be a bit better good luck in your IVF journey, i wish we could do ivf with sperm donor...or wish we could afford to do it anyway
Oh you could totally be describing my husband there apart from the low self esteem, he is also unbelievably impatient and very very intolerant haha but lovely with it



 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 18:18 PM   33
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silverbell~ thank you for the warm welcome too and the compliment! I also wish it wasnt so expensive to do fertility treatments..but it's not just the money though that's a big part..if we do another IUI we have to pay $350 just for the lab because it's been over a year since i've been and then the iui with everything is like $2500 plus sperm from a sperm bank around $1000...it's alot of mulah for one try. Besides that we live an hour away from our RE and you cant bring your kids (duh) and we dont live around family that could keep them for every appt. so it sucks...also the main clinic where we would do the iui is about three hours away i do think about going back sometimes though.

well ladies i'll be back probably tomorrow...have some sick kiddos over here nite!



 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2012, 03:40 AM   34
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Faithbabies your children look adorable.

Where is everyone from anyways?
Im from Preston, Lancashire, England.

My DH does not have mood swings at all. He is sooo laid back. In fact if he was even more laid back he'd fall asleep lol.
He never stresses or anything like that! Im the stressy one lol. He calms me down! he he
We was wondering why after IVF why he'd need the injections as he has managed without them so far!
Really he just never stresses out. I must admit though when we found out about the KS and the infertility he lost it for a couple of weeks. He just blamed himself so much. But he soon came round and is now back to his normal self.



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Old Feb 23rd, 2012, 03:47 AM   35
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My DH does not have mood swings at all. He is sooo laid back. In fact if he was even more laid back he'd fall asleep lol.
He never stresses or anything like that! Im the stressy one lol. He calms me down! he he
We was wondering why after IVF why he'd need the injections as he has managed without them so far!
Same here My DH doesn't have mood swings at all. He's very laid-back and calm. The only symptom of KS my DH has is the body shape. He's gotten away very lightly from what I've read.

The Testosterone replacement after IVF/biopsy etc is because he has a very increased risk of getting brittle bones - osteoporosis in the future. As well as premature ageing, increased risk of breast cancer etc. The Testosterone is required to help to try to combat the chances of these things happening. Just like when women need HRT when their oestrogen drops after the menopause, so our KS partners need replacement because their testosterone is low. For their future health. Any improved energy or moods is just a bonus.



 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2012, 04:27 AM   36
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My DH does not have mood swings at all. He is sooo laid back. In fact if he was even more laid back he'd fall asleep lol.
He never stresses or anything like that! Im the stressy one lol. He calms me down! he he
We was wondering why after IVF why he'd need the injections as he has managed without them so far!
Same here My DH doesn't have mood swings at all. He's very laid-back and calm. The only symptom of KS my DH has is the body shape. He's gotten away very lightly from what I've read.

The Testosterone replacement after IVF/biopsy etc is because he has a very increased risk of getting brittle bones - osteoporosis in the future. As well as premature ageing, increased risk of breast cancer etc. The Testosterone is required to help to try to combat the chances of these things happening. Just like when women need HRT when their oestrogen drops after the menopause, so our KS partners need replacement because their testosterone is low. For their future health. Any improved energy or moods is just a bonus.
Only sympton of KS is Infertility. He has plenty of muscle and i mean plenty! One Doctor didnt believe it when we told him he has been confirmed KS.
Its meant to be hard to gain muscle isnt it?
i keep hoping and praying they got it wrong but about 6 sperm tests cant be wrong can they!

ahh i see about the injections. but my DH's testorone level is apparently 'normal'? but makes sense on the osteoporosis etc...



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Only sympton of KS is Infertility. He has plenty of muscle and i mean plenty! One Doctor didnt believe it when we told him he has been confirmed KS.
Its meant to be hard to gain muscle isnt it?
i keep hoping and praying they got it wrong but about 6 sperm tests cant be wrong can they!

ahh i see about the injections. but my DH's testorone level is apparently 'normal'? but makes sense on the osteoporosis etc...
Oh, sorry, yes, obviously infertility for my DH too.

Yes it is meant to be very hard to gain muscle. You're right - 6 sperm tests can't be wrong but that will just prove azoospermia. I guess the genetics test for KS (karyotype) could always be wrong, but it's highly doubtful.

Oh I see. That's unusual about the normal Testosterone. Most things I've read have suggested it's a big side effect of having KS. In that case I don't know whether he'd need it or not - it would be a good idea to get him to see an Endocrinologist to discuss the KS in more detail I would think.



 
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Only sympton of KS is Infertility. He has plenty of muscle and i mean plenty! One Doctor didnt believe it when we told him he has been confirmed KS.
Its meant to be hard to gain muscle isnt it?
i keep hoping and praying they got it wrong but about 6 sperm tests cant be wrong can they!

ahh i see about the injections. but my DH's testorone level is apparently 'normal'? but makes sense on the osteoporosis etc...
Oh, sorry, yes, obviously infertility for my DH too.

Yes it is meant to be very hard to gain muscle. You're right - 6 sperm tests can't be wrong but that will just prove azoospermia. I guess the genetics test for KS (karyotype) could always be wrong, but it's highly doubtful.

Oh I see. That's unusual about the normal Testosterone. Most things I've read have suggested it's a big side effect of having KS. In that case I don't know whether he'd need it or not - it would be a good idea to get him to see an Endocrinologist to discuss the KS in more detail I would think.
its strange then how my DH has plenty of it.
yeah i agree its highly doubtful that the karyotype was wrong.

We went to see an endocrinologist in Jan this year, it was them who looked at my DH and said are yuo sure its been confirmed xxy. They had to have a feel of his chest and agreed that there was absolutely no man boob there and was all muscle.
She had to call another guy in to have a look as well.
They said that he is probably mosaic but confimed it in a letter that he was all 47xxy. They did however say that even if the karotype came back as 47xxy he is probably mosaic as they cant test the whole sample?

i wish they would make there minds up lol.



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clarkea~~ thank you for the compliment i am from Texas ....
you are lucky your DH doesnt have as many KS symptoms..i am more laid back so we even each other that but sometimes i want him to calm me down and it's hard lol also, my DH has always had normal testosterone but for KS hormones work differently and many KS patients have told me that the normal level for them is lower than just your average joe's testosterone levels. Most KS patients start taking T therapy as pre teens. Also if your DH has any of the symptoms..there are so many, even in the sexual area, T therapy will help. Our endocrinologist said T therapy will help impove his libido and i was like "oh no can't u give him something to slow him down? lol i'm just not one to want it every day lol " luckily he's not had any issues there, it's more due to his moods and energy level. I've already seen a difference in just a month of shots.
speaking of mosaic Klinefelter's...they usually are not infertile. (according to research)



 
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Yeah, my DH has had absolutely ZERO problems in the bedroom department, despite having a low Testosterone (8). His Endocrinologist thought there might have been past problems because of it, but he's never, ever had any issues or libido problems. In a way it's a shame he didn't, as it may have prompted us to go to the docs sooner and find out what was going on and we'd have known sooner etc. But c'est la vie!



 
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