No, I haven't had much pain at all other than the normal cramping I get each month about mid-way through my cycle. Wait, that's not entirely true. I had more cramping last month after my IUI. This time around nothing. I didn't have a trigger shot this time, maybe that's the difference?

At any rate, I hope you feel better and this month is your month for a BFP! Hugs to you too. You sound a little down which is completely understandable.

Hi Ladies! Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I've been in kind of a depression since my 3rd iui failed. I was so optimisitic about having 3 mature follicles that I thought I would have a better chance, apparently not. I talked my husband into giving this one more shot even though he was very hesitant. We both just don't have that much hope anymore and financially we are hurting. It's just all so hard to deal with. I wanted to try one more time because otherwise we will be paying this all off for nothing. My RE said if 3 medicated cycles fail then you should move on. Last month was my first medicated cycle but 3rd iui. First natural cycle, 2nd trigger. I went to my RE today for my baseline ultrasound and asked what the succuess rates were natural vs medicated the nurse said she thinks it's the same 20%. I questioned myself and why I would do the medicated then??? I would think if you have more eggs you have a better chance??? What have you ladies been told as far as success rates go??? Anyways I wish you all luck with your 2ww and that it ends in a BFP!

i just had my 4th iui today but it likely failed. finally finally got a sperm count on the donor sperm (despite asking each time). and it turns out while there is a good count there is extremely poor progression. the doc seemed to think it was unlikely to work. the sperm bank is willing to give me 4 free vials etc. im hoping the clinic does something too. he repeatedly talked me out of testing the sperm as it is "always normal" . i spent over 4000 on this cycle alone , all out of pocket. sigh. my only hope is that i did injections this month and likely had 4-5 eggs. but im not too hopeful

Oh squid that really stinks. Just try and be optomistic! It may work you never know. I just started my clomid last night and we are going to give this one more go and switch donors. We have went with the same donor for 3 cycles and no success..so maybe this is the answer. I'm thinking of you Squid keep your chin up!!!!

dde3- I just read this thread for the first time. I am really surprised they triggered when they did with you last cycle. Most docs will not trigger unless there is at least one follicle 18mm or bigger on a Clomid cycle. Anything under 18 is not mature.

So sorry I am considering iui at the moment so I came across your thread whilst doing a bit of research. I was just puzzled as to why you need a trigger shot when you've already seen a positive opk? Maybe that was too much? I hope you are successful next time

Nicker- That was on the Friday before my IUI that the follicles were those sizes. I didn't have my iui untill Monday, so I would think they would be mature by then??? But please fill me in if my clinic is wrong??? I've been doubting them latley as it is I guess because there is no bun in this oven yet. My second cycle they told me that the trigger would help with natural ovulation and make it more optimal. Then since I did clomid last month they had me do the trigger Saturday night. And IUI on Monday. According to my blood work this was the right time. Also I did an OPK clear blue the next day after the shot and it was blarring positive smiley and when i injected the strip out there were two dark lines that looked exactly the same. We are going to switch donors this time most likley because the last three times have been with the same one and the counts have been anywhere from 10 million to 14 million thats with requesting the highest sperm count that the donor has on hand. Is this normal counts for donor or should I be shooting for better??? I just feel so confused at all of this. Questioning everything and wondering why this isn't working. I wish I could go into my body and see what's going on. The nurse said the success rate was the same for natural versus medicated cycles and that dosen't make sense to me why would they do it then??? I ovulate on my own naturally and I'm wondering if this is good for me taking clomid and trigger if it could be hurting instead of helping. Anyone else done clomid and trigger despite ovulating on their own. Would I be better doing a natural cycle or would this help me have better chances???? Help Ladies!!! We have paid off our current balance with them but I am terrified to see the bills that are coming. Maybe I should have just done a natural cycle and saved myself the extra costs of monitioring and bloodwork. If anyone has ANY advice please tell. This will be our last cycle FOR SURE. We can't just keep taking big risks like this and spending money that may never result in anything. It's sad to me that because of money it has to be this way but unfortunately that's reality. I just never thought it would come down to 4 iuis. I was so optimistic starting out with all of this. I guess having a 80% chance of faliure is pretty huge. I keep looking at all the baby things we have stored under our stairs waiting for this baby and how sad it will be to have to get rid of it all.

If that was Friday scan and your IUI was on Monday then they should have matured. On medicated cycles they grow between 1-2mm a day. 36 hours after trigger is good for timing. Using an OPK after a trigger shot is a waste of money because it will always show positive. If you use the OPK before trigger and the OPK is positive then 24 hours may be better timing for the IUI. From what I understand IUI 36 hours after trigger without natural LH surge and IUI 24 hours after trigger with natural LH surge.

I am not 100% sure but I am quite certain that the sperm bank has no idea what the sperm count is in each individual sample. Even if they did know the count of each sample, everyone wants the best possible sample from the donor of their choice and I don't think the bank would hand pick samples for one patient. However, a good sperm bank with have a guarantee. My sperm bank guarantees 25 million motile sperm/ml. That is Xytex.

Hey girls just jumping in on the convo. We are also using donor sperm due to Azoospermia . we just finished IUI #2. We were doing an at home AI programme with donor sperm from our bank for the first 5 months we tried. We DID have success with that, conceiving twins on our 2nd AI, but we lost them to a missed m/c. we did 3 more at home tries before switching to IUI through our Ob/Gyn. (we don't have any specialists where we live beyond the ONE gyno who does fertility stuff) He does 2 IUI's 24hrs apart. We asked about using Femara to increase our chances of conception, but he says he insists on 3 unmedicated cycles if there is nothing wrong with the woman before adding meds to the mix. Today is CD1 for me after our second IUI cycle. It was timed perfectly (i think) although i would much rather have a trigger and a 36hr post IUI to save on sperm costs, he insists the monitoring would end up costing us even more and to just use the 2 vials rather. So i use OPK's at home and call his nurse when i get my +. This month i honestly thought i was losing my mind when i thought i could see a faint line on my FRER at 13dpo...so i went in for my beta and it came back a 6 (over 5 is a +) the nurse called and told me it was an iffy position to be in and to go back on monday for a second blood draw. Of course this was Wednesday and now i am most certain that I am no longer "pregnant" I've been highly contemplating changing donors. The problem is my dh picked our donor out as it only seemed fair, and he really likes the "stats" on this guy. *sigh* We have one more set of IUI vials in storage at our clinic before we would have to buy more, and i think we are going to find a new donor then. (if iui#3 doesn't take) Im depressed as if its MY fault the pregnancy didn't make it this time(again)...yet i know it was more a "chemical" than anything else. If we weren't monitoring so much, i probably never would have known i WAS pregnant except my breasts were really puffy for 4 days and i was wondering what was going on. Anywho, my dr doesn't do a count on my vials either, which really bothers me as well. I have looked at the donors on the xytex bank before but we ended up going with a canadian bank...however this time around should we need to find a new donor...i think xytex is the bank we will be going with.

There is a Canadian bank?? I didn't think there was because it is very tough to get Canadian donors as it is illegal in Canada for a donor to receive any sort of compensation. I get my Xytex sperm through a Canadian distributor. I actually order from and pay Outreach Health Services.