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Old Jul 30th, 2013, 07:46 AM   11
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It might also be silent reflux which would explain why she does better being held against you. She wouldn't be totally flat.
Also, re the swaddling. In the woombie she can still move her arms unlike if she were swaddled tightly. xx



 
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Old Jul 30th, 2013, 08:10 AM   12
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Sounds like you are both very tired.

How often do you try to get her to nap. At that age my LO needed to an very 45-75 minutes after waking. If I missed it she'd either fight or cat nap. Do you have a sling carrier? I wear my baby for most of her naps.



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As I was reading OP's post, this is exactly what I was thinking! ^^

I think your LO is so overtired that she can't switch off. My LO is roughly the same age as yours and between about 4 and 8/9 weeks, I had to basically force him to nap in the day. As Bean66 suggested, I would invest in a carrier. Although my LO was younger (and therefore much lighter), I used to stick him in the carrier for up to an hour and a half at a time, around 3/4 times a day or so and he'd sleep whilst I did jobs round the house. Long walks in his pram also worked for my son. It enabled him to get good quality sleep in the day! I think that if your LO is getting enough sleep, then your nighttime woes *might* improve on their own.

Also, I know sleep training isn't an option at this point but what do you mean by 'crying'? My LO will often whimper/whinge for 5 mins or so right before he drifts off. My husband and I have an agreement that we'll only pick him up if he's upset, as usually he'll settle himself. If he's upset, we pick him up, cuddle him until calm and then put him down. We repeat this as often as we have to until he falls asleep. Sometimes a dummy also helps. From around 8 weeks, we were doing this fairly frequently and he would take anywhere between 10 and 45 minutes to settle at night. Now, at 13 weeks, he's settled by 7:30 and it takes on average 5-10 minutes with no crying.

Hope that helps a bit!



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Old Jul 30th, 2013, 08:30 AM   13
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I agree with the other ladies that she sounds very overtired. Being happy and alert between naps can indicate that she's overtired. She's past the point of grumpy and is on her "second wind" so to speak. Her adrenaline response is kicking in.

Until you can catch her up on sleep, I'd aim to put her down an hour after she's been awake with the hopes of having her asleep at the 90 minute mark. Try the swing or even a baby carrier if she prefers napping on you.

Here's a good article I like as well:

http://www.troublesometots.com/are-y...leep-mistakes/

My LO was a terrible, awful sleeper at that age so I feel for you. There's still a lot of time for improvement.



 
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Old Jul 30th, 2013, 10:47 AM   14
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My LO used to be like this too... the thing which saved our sanity was putting her to sleep on her belly. It goes against the regulations, but it was the only way I could get her to stay asleep longer than 5 minutes in her cot. We switched to tummy sleeping at around 5 or 6 months.



 
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Old Jul 30th, 2013, 11:43 AM   15
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Hello! My 8 week old daughter is the same. I've had to hold her in my arms all day and night for 7 weeks. She is now just starting to lay on her own in the bed for 3-4 hours at night be herself. She has acid reflux though and was put on medication and I think that is helping. I've read that it is common for babies with acid reflux to want to be held all the time. I'll show a pic of how we lay her. I took a blanket and rolled it into a U shape so it kind of feels like she is being held still and sometimes I will play lullabies from YouTube on my phone and it helps her fall asleep. I know it is very hard and my arm and back hurt all the time too. I hope you get some relief soon.



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Old Jul 30th, 2013, 13:03 PM   16
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Yeah, I forgot to mention LO does indeed have reflux. She is on rantidine now, which seems to have helped a LOT with her mood whilst awake, but the sleep didn't magically improve like we'd hoped it would.

I really think, when she is old enough to be able to sleep on her tummy without me overwhelmed with fear, that will be the time she starts sleeping better. Until then, I suppose I just have to keep trying to get her comfortable in her own space a bit. I think tonight I will add a swaddle and white noise back into the mix. I have a very loud fan (which doesn't seem to help) but I will use my iPhone app too and see if that helps at all...

Thank you all so much for your insight. The overwhelming guilt that I've "done something wrong" to make her such a bad sleeper overwhelms me a lot. Especially around sleep-deprivation-thirty in the morning



 
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Yeah, I forgot to mention LO does indeed have reflux. She is on rantidine now, which seems to have helped a LOT with her mood whilst awake, but the sleep didn't magically improve like we'd hoped it would.

I really think, when she is old enough to be able to sleep on her tummy without me overwhelmed with fear, that will be the time she starts sleeping better. Until then, I suppose I just have to keep trying to get her comfortable in her own space a bit. I think tonight I will add a swaddle and white noise back into the mix. I have a very loud fan (which doesn't seem to help) but I will use my iPhone app too and see if that helps at all...

Thank you all so much for your insight. The overwhelming guilt that I've "done something wrong" to make her such a bad sleeper overwhelms me a lot. Especially around sleep-deprivation-thirty in the morning
You've done nothing wrong!



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You have done nothing wrong. Being a mum is so, so hard and nobody tells you how much babies will fight sleep.

I agree with everyone else though that she sounds overtired, which will make her naps shorter and her nighttime sleep harder. At 12 weeks, my LO couldn't stay awake any longer than an hour before he had to nap. Even if she is happy, put her down after an hour. she will (hopefully) go to sleep much easier. It will also help with putting her down at bedtime.

My LO only started going two hours around 4.5-5 months. Even now at nearly 8 months, he can only stay awake 2 hours in the morning and then 2.5-3 in the afternoon.

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Old Jul 30th, 2013, 13:32 PM   19
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I found these articles helpful

http://kellymom.com/parenting/nighttime/sleep/


http://kellymom.com/parenting/nighttime/sleepstudies/


This one is of the WIO (wait it out) perspective of sleep training. I'm not saying you should never sleep train butit helped me with bad nights. Although be warned it's a tear jerker.


http://nurshable.com/2012/07/19/the-...leep-training/

http://nurshable.com/2013/05/25/the-...ndent-sleeper/

Also at 7mths, the babies I know who were great sleepers from day dot have started to be anti sleepers and those who weren't great are started to sttn. Tings will get better.

Edited to add: I really hope the WIO post doesn't offend anyone. :-/ I'm not judging CIO, it's just the post really helped me when I found the early days hard.



 
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Yeah, I forgot to mention LO does indeed have reflux. She is on rantidine now, which seems to have helped a LOT with her mood whilst awake, but the sleep didn't magically improve like we'd hoped it would.

I really think, when she is old enough to be able to sleep on her tummy without me overwhelmed with fear, that will be the time she starts sleeping better. Until then, I suppose I just have to keep trying to get her comfortable in her own space a bit. I think tonight I will add a swaddle and white noise back into the mix. I have a very loud fan (which doesn't seem to help) but I will use my iPhone app too and see if that helps at all...

Thank you all so much for your insight. The overwhelming guilt that I've "done something wrong" to make her such a bad sleeper overwhelms me a lot. Especially around sleep-deprivation-thirty in the morning
Have you tried raising one end of her bed a bit? That might help.



 
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