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Old Nov 16th, 2017, 23:32 PM   11
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Also, how or why I am putting her in danger? If everyone elses kids are vaccinated and they are just "so effective" I should have no chance of her getting any of the illness or disease these vaccines supposedly prevent. Ive researched both sides. I wont allow my baby to be injected with the shit in vaccines. Its pharma... they care about money. Did you know just as many get whooping cough that are vaccinated than those who arent.. actually... I believe 80% of whooping cough cases are those who are vaccinated. In that case, the vaccine is ineffective and only gives your baby chemicals that could kill them if not instantly then long term. Alot of the ingredients are proven and known to cause cancer.



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Old Nov 16th, 2017, 23:38 PM   12
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Minties.. I have no anxiety only ADHD. I always laughed at my Mom for worrying all the time lol. I just already lost my son at 33 weeks. Now I have my baby girl in my arms and I'll be damned if another person or especially a sick kid at the doctors gets her sick. Alot of my family havent met her yet because Im not going to have someone come around, want to hold her and then have her get sick because I know people can be contagious with zero symotoms and that would piss me off to no end. Im breastfeeding exclusively and havent taken her anywhere unless absoloutley necessary such as to sign discharge to pick up my Mom after surgery.

I used to get sick all the time when I went to public school.. I started cyber school in 10th grade and I can't even remember the last time I got sick. I know people equal sickness and I prefer to stay away from public places.

Im antisocial so I dont live in fear of people hahaha I just hate being around people. I dont even enjoy people coming to see my baby. In fact, if it werent for my parents basically forcing me to let my aunt, my one cousin and my fiances mom and sister meet her - Id be happy as hell to only let my fiance and my immediate family hold her and love on her. I dont care to "show her off" because people annoy me and Im already disgusted with people trying to hold her... I know.. Im different I guess lol



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Old Nov 17th, 2017, 05:12 AM   13
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I am sorry for your loss, I canít imagine how heartbreaking that was.

What these websites fail to explain is that dose makes the poison, not the element itself. Even water becomes toxic if you drink too much of it. Mercury is a naturally occurring element in nature. You ingest more of it in the foods you eat and water you drink (even organic foods) than youíll ever receive when you get all of the recommended vaccines. There is even traces of mercury in your breastmilk. You will also ingest more preservatives on an average day than youíll ever receive from vaccines.

Iíll be totally honest, it sucks watching your child get shots. You know it hurts and of course as a parent you never want to hurt your child. But measles, polio, meningitis, etc all hurt far worse and do much more damage. There is nothing worse as a parent than having a sick child. They canít speak to tell you how they feel, and you feel helpless and powerless trying to make them feel better. You may think that your child will just get over whooping cough of whatever illness, but to watch them go through is heartbreaking and so much worse than a few minutes of tears from vaccines. If there is anything I can do to prevent my baby girl from getting sick, I will do it. Vaccines prevent many diseases. Sure, they arenít 100% effective, but if there is a >90% chance that my child will never get hepatitis B, Iíll gladly do it, and if my doctor gets a kickback for that, good for him for keeping my child safe.

If my child ever became deathly ill from something that could have been prevented that I chose not to do, I could never live with myself. A child may not ever contract a deadly illness without vaccines, but why take that chance? Vaccines could prevent a child from contracting the flu or pneumonia or chicken pox from a child in a doctorís office waiting room.



 
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Old Nov 17th, 2017, 08:49 AM   14
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I know everybody has different views but personally I feel the more babies are exposed to the outside world and public places, the better their immune system will be. My two both have been exposed to alot from an early age (I have horses so they have to come along, dust, dirt, germs and all) from day 1 and they are both very healthy. Surely by avoiding common coughs and colds and daily germs their immune system cannot build up so they will be more likely to get a serious illness?
Congratulations on your baby girl by the way, especially after your awful loss xx



 
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Old Nov 17th, 2017, 12:46 PM   15
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Also, how or why I am putting her in danger? If everyone elses kids are vaccinated and they are just "so effective" I should have no chance of her getting any of the illness or disease these vaccines supposedly prevent. Ive researched both sides. I wont allow my baby to be injected with the shit in vaccines. Its pharma... they care about money. Did you know just as many get whooping cough that are vaccinated than those who arent.. actually... I believe 80% of whooping cough cases are those who are vaccinated. In that case, the vaccine is ineffective and only gives your baby chemicals that could kill them if not instantly then long term. Alot of the ingredients are proven and known to cause cancer.
Herd immunity only works if a majority of the "herd" is immunized. The problem these days is so many people not vaccinating that we are starting to see deadly diseases returning. Yes vaccines are not 100% effective, but they save lives. There are diseases that were once eradicated that are unfortunately returning because so many people are choosing not to vaccinate their children.

I think jumping and saying that vaccinating your kids will kill them "instantly" or "long term" is a little extreme. As others have said, if you are going to research the anti-vaccine side, you should also research the pro-vaccine side and then make an informed decision.

My children have never gotten sick from going to the doctors office. I think they keep the offices very well cleaned. They also have a "well child area" and "well checkup" hours where it is only healthy children visiting. Maybe ask if your office has something similar?

One last thing, if you don't like your doctor or their policies, find a new one.



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Old Nov 17th, 2017, 12:47 PM   16
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Holly,
My issue is if my newborn were to die from an injection I could never live with myself. A vaccine is a choice I have to make for her. Illness is not a choice otherwise everyone would choose not to become ill (lol).

Also Im not sure who stated about ingredients being toxic in certain amounts, however, there is no known safe amount of many of the ingredients in vaccines. Mercury for example is NOT meant to be injected or even drank for that matter.. water can be toxic at extreme amounts however water is safe for human consumption. Water is also not known to cause cancer. :/



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Old Nov 17th, 2017, 12:57 PM   17
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What if your child were to contact a deadly disease that could have been prevented had she had a vaccine? I cannot say that just because my children are vaccinated they won't get sick, but I know it definitely helps.

It also seems like you kind of live in this little bubble. I get you lost a baby and that is extremely hard, but you can't confine your child to a life of living inside and away from people - even family - just because you are worried she will get sick.

Yes it sucks to see your kids in any type of pain, but kids are resilient and they will be just fine.



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Old Nov 17th, 2017, 13:34 PM   18
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Luz, I dont live in a bubble in a sense that Im scared of anything. I dont like people or being around people so I guess its a nice excuse to use. I truly dont want her to get sick and I dont like people and yes people are the way she will get sick when she does I just dont care to deal with her crying and screaming any more than I do already lol. I am exclusively breastfeeding so I have basically no time to myself as it is. If she were to get sick Id have zero time to myself - literally.



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Mercury is in a lot of foods, especially vegetables, fish, and rice, in trace amounts, including your breastmilk.



 
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Old Nov 17th, 2017, 13:58 PM   20
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Having a baby is hard. Often times a lot harder than people think it will be. Hang in there and give it a few weeks. Life gets easier around 2-3 months when they get onto more of a schedule and then you get more time to yourself... but not really. I don't even think i've peed alone for the past 6 years



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