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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 13:49 PM   1
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4 Month Sleep Regression / Growth Spurt?...


What is this? Obviously it means baby puts on a bit of weight but what's all this about sleep regression??

My little boy was sleeping through the night beautifully until recently. He now wakes every 2/3 hrs. There is also alot of tears and he's very hard to console at the moment. Usually he's very easy to console with a cuddle and a bit of a breastfeed.

My happy baby seems to be constantly unsettled right now and I'm trying to find a reason for it.



 
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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 14:19 PM   2
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Hi Gem, my LO is just the same at the moment and is almost exactly the same age as yours.

I too have heard these phrases banded about on the forum and so did a little bit of research today on it.

I stumbled across a blog where a woman recommended a book called The Wonder Weeks by Frans Plooij which covers this type of thing. There is a website relating to it too. I may get the book to have a read of!

Just thought I'd pass that on...

Edit: Sorry, forgot the link to the blog... http://moxie.blogs.com/askmoxie/2006...t_are_sle.html



 
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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 14:27 PM   3
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I haven't read the article above, but my understanding of the 4 month Sleep Regression / Growth Spurt is that because they are having such a big spurt they can't get enough calories in during their normal waking hours...therefore they regress back to when they were much younger i.e. waking every 3 hours or whatever, in order to get the calories they need to grow, basically they feel hungry most of the time.

It could easily be that making him wake. I thought Izzy was having a spurt, and she was waking in the night..it lasted quite a while though, a number of weeks, and no amount of milk seemed to satisfy her for long, and this didn't even stop when i started to wean her onto fruit and veg (because she was on small amounts at first just once a day) I didn't notice a change back to her old sleeping routine until she was on 2 meals which included porridge plus all her normal milks, although she was generally more satisfied even with the small bits she was getting.



 
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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 15:03 PM   4
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The growth spurt is a big mental spurt - your LO might not put on more weight than normal.

The feeding is to increase calorie intake - and so it is worth bearing in mind that milk is likely to contain more calories than many weaning foods, e.g. pureed veg... also (I may be wrong about this) I have been told that 'hungry baby' milk does not have any more calories or nutrition in it than normal formula milk - just that it has potato starch added for 'bulk' - so it tricks babies body into believing it is fuller than it is, if that makes sense.

I'm just saying this because many people wrongly believe their LO needs to start weaning when they hit this spurt, as they are waking in the night hungry, which makes mum worry that they aren't getting enough food. It's true that they are waking for food - but milk is the best food for them - it is not a true sign of needing to wean - hope that makes sense! Obviously some babies do need to wean early but that is for reasons other than this growth spurt. Hope that makes sense!!!

Because it is a mental spurt - it is a lot for baby to cope with, adapt to and take in. It can be a little overwhelming (a bit like the moody teenager hormonal moments I suppose)... and so you have a grumpy and clingy baby on your hands as well as being sleep-deprived with sore boobies and a niggling feeling that you should start sleep training or something because everything that was going so well has now fallen to bits! Lol!

My LO is going through it just now. It's been about a week and a half so far - but particularly bad the last three nights and today. I feel your pain.

I think (and again am not sure about this - but have heard somewhere) that the increased feeding leads to increased milk production (or a change in the composition of the milk), and that once this has happened things should calm down again. Fingers crossed for that!!!

Then you have the 5 month spurt to look forward to.......



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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 15:12 PM   5
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Joe seems to have started the dreaded 4 month growth spurt too! In the last week he's been waking again during the night after sleeping through since 6 weeks, but he doesn't seem to want a bottle? I watched him the other night and he was kind-of crying but still asleep and then settling again?? He's also more difficult to settle during the day too.
I'll be watching this thread for anymore tips!!
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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 15:28 PM   6
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Maybe we should start a growth spurt support thread haha... as I've read quite a lot of posts about this in the past couple of days!



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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 15:37 PM   7
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me too girls!!
I'd forgotten how draining the sleepness nights are!!
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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 16:18 PM   8
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Terrible isn't it.

Willy was SO fretful this evening I gave him half a dose of Calpol. Maybe I shouldn't have done that? But as a concequence, within half an hour he was back to his old self, playing with his toys and laughing. I also got the best feed down him that I've had all day.

He's also drifted off in to a comfortable sleep. ADo you think maybe it could be teething thats his issue? He is very dribbly but I cant see anything in his mouth. No red gums or rosy cheeks. He is however shoving everything in his mouth.

These little ones are such a guessing game

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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 16:42 PM   9
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my 16 week old has been grizzly for the last few days too. crying and whinging a bit more than usual and difficult to settle also drinking so much milk i can hardly fill him, worse in the evening, and also has been going all night without waking from 9 till bout 6 or 7 but last few mornings has been waking bout 4 or 5 so i assume he is having big growth surt too.

good to know we are all not alone and are all going through same things. i was beginning to think about weaning but think i will wait and see if growth spurt passes now.

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Old Jan 15th, 2010, 16:52 PM   10
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Just echoing everything petal said.

I have The Wonder Weeks - it's a really good book and has helped me to understand what is going on in Jack's head and how I can help him. That Ask Moxie article is also very helpful, I came across that a while back too

The 4 month growth spurt lasted 10 days for us but the sleep regression lasted over 5 months, we are only just coming out of it now. I let poor habits form during those 10 days that were very, very hard to undo! And there is typically another phase at about 8 months, so these ran together for us.

My top tip would be - feed them when they wake but still make sure you put them back to bed awake and let them settle themselves some of the way!



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