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Old Feb 1st, 2011, 04:20 AM   11
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You see I do believe that not all the men raising babies that aren't theirs have been duped by the mums. I think that sometimes they will be as shocked as the dads upon finding out. I know some poeple will say "you must have known" but I think some won't.

I also had another thought..
That this will also have implications for older children, adults and adopted children who have had questions over paternity. For example, I was told my blood group is O neg during a procedure some years back, when I said to my mum "oh yeah, did you know I'm I'm O neg?" she said "You can't be, cos I am pos and so is daddy.. Are you sure?". Alarm bells started ringing in my head as I know that to have my blood type at least one of the parents has to have the same! She brushed it off and said she must have got it wrong about my dad being positive etc.. But it got me thinking, do I actually look like my dad or is it more expressions I pull rather than actual similarities in features..? I decieded I didn't wanna know even if he wasn't because I am so so close to him and it would break both our hearts if he wasn't my dad. I didn't even wanna press my mum further in case she "fessed up". I left it a long while before I asked her again, I said "is there ANY doubt at all because your response over the whole blood type thing baffled me?? I don't mind but would like to know" she assured me that he is 100% my dad and that he MUST be O neg like me. I believed her but wouldn't wanna know my dads blood type just in case! I guess if I didn't LOVE my dad the way I do or get on with him I might seek to find out as I'm sure some will.
Also children who think they might be adopted can now put their parents on the spot a bit and demand a test.. Not sure if this is a good thing really. As someone else said, can of worms spings to mind!



 
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Old Feb 1st, 2011, 04:29 AM   12
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You see I do believe that not all the men raising babies that aren't theirs have been duped by the mums. I think that sometimes they will be as shocked as the dads upon finding out. I know some poeple will say "you must have known" but I think some won't.

I also had another thought..
That this will also have implications for older children, adults and adopted children who have had questions over paternity. For example, I was told my blood group is O neg during a procedure some years back, when I said to my mum "oh yeah, did you know I'm I'm O neg?" she said "You can't be, cos I am pos and so is daddy.. Are you sure?". Alarm bells started ringing in my head as I know that to have my blood type at least one of the parents has to have the same! She brushed it off and said she must have got it wrong about my dad being positive etc.. But it got me thinking, do I actually look like my dad or is it more expressions I pull rather than actual similarities in features..? I decieded I didn't wanna know even if he wasn't because I am so so close to him and it would break both our hearts if he wasn't my dad. I didn't even wanna press my mum further in case she "fessed up". I left it a long while before I asked her again, I said "is there ANY doubt at all because your response over the whole blood type thing baffled me?? I don't mind but would like to know" she assured me that he is 100% my dad and that he MUST be O neg like me. I believed her but wouldn't wanna know my dads blood type just in case! I guess if I didn't LOVE my dad the way I do or get on with him I might seek to find out as I'm sure some will.
Also children who think they might be adopted can now put their parents on the spot a bit and demand a test.. Not sure if this is a good thing really. As someone else said, can of worms spings to mind!
It is genetically possible for both parents to be positive and the child to be negative. the +ve is dominant, and you carry two copies of every gene, so both your parents carry the dominant +ve gene and a recessive -ve gene. They present as +ve because it is dominant, but you inherited the recessive -ve gene from each parent so you are -ve. You had a 25% chance of being -ve.



 
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Old Feb 1st, 2011, 04:39 AM   13
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I think if there is any doubt the man should be told
If i were a man i would not like to bring up someone elses baby unknowingly! I don't know how anyone could do that to their OH!
I think it is a good thing



 
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Old Feb 1st, 2011, 04:55 AM   14
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You see I do believe that not all the men raising babies that aren't theirs have been duped by the mums. I think that sometimes they will be as shocked as the dads upon finding out. I know some poeple will say "you must have known" but I think some won't.

I also had another thought..
That this will also have implications for older children, adults and adopted children who have had questions over paternity. For example, I was told my blood group is O neg during a procedure some years back, when I said to my mum "oh yeah, did you know I'm I'm O neg?" she said "You can't be, cos I am pos and so is daddy.. Are you sure?". Alarm bells started ringing in my head as I know that to have my blood type at least one of the parents has to have the same! She brushed it off and said she must have got it wrong about my dad being positive etc.. But it got me thinking, do I actually look like my dad or is it more expressions I pull rather than actual similarities in features..? I decieded I didn't wanna know even if he wasn't because I am so so close to him and it would break both our hearts if he wasn't my dad. I didn't even wanna press my mum further in case she "fessed up". I left it a long while before I asked her again, I said "is there ANY doubt at all because your response over the whole blood type thing baffled me?? I don't mind but would like to know" she assured me that he is 100% my dad and that he MUST be O neg like me. I believed her but wouldn't wanna know my dads blood type just in case! I guess if I didn't LOVE my dad the way I do or get on with him I might seek to find out as I'm sure some will.
Also children who think they might be adopted can now put their parents on the spot a bit and demand a test.. Not sure if this is a good thing really. As someone else said, can of worms spings to mind!
It is genetically possible for both parents to be positive and the child to be negative. the +ve is dominant, and you carry two copies of every gene, so both your parents carry the dominant +ve gene and a recessive -ve gene. They present as +ve because it is dominant, but you inherited the recessive -ve gene from each parent so you are -ve. You had a 25% chance of being -ve.
Wow.. thanks so much for that!! I didn't know it was possible! I feel quite relieved now and won't feel the need to shut my eyes should a medical document containing my dads blood type pass before me!!



 
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Old Feb 1st, 2011, 05:00 AM   15
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It'll put Jezza out of business

No on a more serious note I agree with you, it has potential to destroy families. What if a dad has doubts and does a test behind the mums back or something or vice versa??

I think I would be offended if DH wanted one for any of ours.
Hahahaha this is EXACTLY what I was about to write!!!



 
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Old Feb 1st, 2011, 05:08 AM   16
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I'm not sure I support this, I would have concerns about the consequences, there is more to being a father than biology and it is very sad to think of a father who wasn't a biological one walking out upon finding this out, devastating a child and breaking up a happy family.

I must say though I don't know a lot about the subject of paternity tests etc, do they usually require both parties to have counselling etc beforehand or not?



 
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You see I do believe that not all the men raising babies that aren't theirs have been duped by the mums. I think that sometimes they will be as shocked as the dads upon finding out. I know some poeple will say "you must have known" but I think some won't.

I also had another thought..
That this will also have implications for older children, adults and adopted children who have had questions over paternity. For example, I was told my blood group is O neg during a procedure some years back, when I said to my mum "oh yeah, did you know I'm I'm O neg?" she said "You can't be, cos I am pos and so is daddy.. Are you sure?". Alarm bells started ringing in my head as I know that to have my blood type at least one of the parents has to have the same! She brushed it off and said she must have got it wrong about my dad being positive etc.. But it got me thinking, do I actually look like my dad or is it more expressions I pull rather than actual similarities in features..? I decieded I didn't wanna know even if he wasn't because I am so so close to him and it would break both our hearts if he wasn't my dad. I didn't even wanna press my mum further in case she "fessed up". I left it a long while before I asked her again, I said "is there ANY doubt at all because your response over the whole blood type thing baffled me?? I don't mind but would like to know" she assured me that he is 100% my dad and that he MUST be O neg like me. I believed her but wouldn't wanna know my dads blood type just in case! I guess if I didn't LOVE my dad the way I do or get on with him I might seek to find out as I'm sure some will.
Also children who think they might be adopted can now put their parents on the spot a bit and demand a test.. Not sure if this is a good thing really. As someone else said, can of worms spings to mind!
It is genetically possible for both parents to be positive and the child to be negative. the +ve is dominant, and you carry two copies of every gene, so both your parents carry the dominant +ve gene and a recessive -ve gene. They present as +ve because it is dominant, but you inherited the recessive -ve gene from each parent so you are -ve. You had a 25% chance of being -ve.
was just going to say .. both my parents are positive, i'm negative .. but it never gave me any doubt they wern't my parents!



 
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You see I do believe that not all the men raising babies that aren't theirs have been duped by the mums. I think that sometimes they will be as shocked as the dads upon finding out. I know some poeple will say "you must have known" but I think some won't.

I also had another thought..
That this will also have implications for older children, adults and adopted children who have had questions over paternity. For example, I was told my blood group is O neg during a procedure some years back, when I said to my mum "oh yeah, did you know I'm I'm O neg?" she said "You can't be, cos I am pos and so is daddy.. Are you sure?". Alarm bells started ringing in my head as I know that to have my blood type at least one of the parents has to have the same! She brushed it off and said she must have got it wrong about my dad being positive etc.. But it got me thinking, do I actually look like my dad or is it more expressions I pull rather than actual similarities in features..? I decieded I didn't wanna know even if he wasn't because I am so so close to him and it would break both our hearts if he wasn't my dad. I didn't even wanna press my mum further in case she "fessed up". I left it a long while before I asked her again, I said "is there ANY doubt at all because your response over the whole blood type thing baffled me?? I don't mind but would like to know" she assured me that he is 100% my dad and that he MUST be O neg like me. I believed her but wouldn't wanna know my dads blood type just in case! I guess if I didn't LOVE my dad the way I do or get on with him I might seek to find out as I'm sure some will.
Also children who think they might be adopted can now put their parents on the spot a bit and demand a test.. Not sure if this is a good thing really. As someone else said, can of worms spings to mind!
It is genetically possible for both parents to be positive and the child to be negative. the +ve is dominant, and you carry two copies of every gene, so both your parents carry the dominant +ve gene and a recessive -ve gene. They present as +ve because it is dominant, but you inherited the recessive -ve gene from each parent so you are -ve. You had a 25% chance of being -ve.
was just going to say .. both my parents are positive, i'm negative .. but it never gave me any doubt they wern't my parents!
I only had a doubt because I was told by the docs at the time that I had to have an O neg parent to be O neg myself. Then my mum (who is a nurse) said the same when I told her I was O neg. Didn't bother to google as I trusted that these HP knew what they were on about.. haha
Should have asked a biologist!



 
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Hopefully it will put off any woman thinking of lying to the 'dad' in the first place!!



 
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You see I do believe that not all the men raising babies that aren't theirs have been duped by the mums. I think that sometimes they will be as shocked as the dads upon finding out. I know some poeple will say "you must have known" but I think some won't
Yeah but unless you are really stupid, then you must know there is a chance of another man being the father.

If you have sex with two diffferent men around the same time and the next month you are pregnant, doesn't take a genius to think 'bugger, it could be either of them' - there might be only a small chance it was the other one if you slept with him two weeks after the other or something, but you still know there is a small chance.
Unless you really don't understand how cycles work etc, then you might be forgiven for not 'knowing'



 
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