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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:05 PM   #41
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Heh I know this feeling! When I was with the ex, he was actually shocked that I went off sex when he would wake me up by pulling the duvet off of me and saying "roll over then"

bloody men!!! lol
How romantic LOL

Have men forgotten what foreplay is?


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:05 PM   #42
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Thing always come out harsher than I mean them, as I am doing all typing one handed with a baby in my other arm...I really should just learn to not be on this site when I have my baby with me! I don't take the time to get things out right.


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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:12 PM   #43
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Heh I know this feeling! When I was with the ex, he was actually shocked that I went off sex when he would wake me up by pulling the duvet off of me and saying "roll over then"

bloody men!!! lol
How romantic LOL

Have men forgotten what foreplay is?

Who says romance is dead eh!

Bet yours so jealous lol


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:22 PM   #44
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I am ever so sorry and I really do not want to offend but if sex twice a week when you dont want it, in my opinion, doesnt say much for a relationship. (Just throwing it out there but isnt that tantamount to rape? )

Sex is a two way thing, if I dont want it and my OH is bugging me for it, he doesnt get it. Its about mutual respect. By 'giving him what he wants' just because he wants it is degreading, again in my opinion.

I understand that different people approach relationships and sex differently, but I personally believe sex should be in the interests of both and not one. If I thought my OH was going to leave me based on not having enough sex, I certainly would not be in that relationship.
rape - verb - to seize and take away by force.

It is absolutely NOT tantamount to rape. Not even sort of. Not even a little bit. Not even in the same ball field. That's outrageous, in my opinion. If having sex with my husband when I'm not in the mood (by my CHOICE) is rape, then raking dog poop up out of my back yard (or insert any other unpleasant chore here) when I'd rather not is slavery. Rape is a term that is entirely too loosely used, in my opinion.

If my husband doesn't get any sex and that makes him unhappy, then why shouldn't he leave me and find somebody else who will give him more sex and therefore give him a higher chance at happiness? Just like if he doesn't give me he emotional support that I want and that makes me unhappy, why shouldn't I leave him and find somebody who will give it to me, and therefore give me a higher chance at happiness? If sex makes him happy, why shouldn't I want to give it to him? How is sex degrading?

Giving him sex IS in my interest. I enjoy sex. Once we get started, I never regret it afterwards. When we have time, he gives me mind blowing orgasms -- that's DEFINITELY a perk for me. When we have sex, I feel more attracted to him and happier to be with him than when we don't. I don't see how any of those things are not in my interest, or in the interest of us as a couple.
As I said, in my opinion. As I also said everyone's relationship is very different and I am not here to judge. As I said I threw the "rape" out there as I am sure that if I sm having sex and I don't want to I feel violated. Just to add I too am going through the same issues with oh and you are right talking about it is important. By me explaining that it wasn't about him but me, he understood. I do think communication is the key.
I thought I'd feel violated too, but I don't. Annoyed, irritated, sometimes even just bored... but he's never made me feel violated. And not to say that our "I'd rather not be doing this" sex is amazing or even remotely GOOD... in fact, its usually me saying, "Just get it over with"... but its sex and he can see that I'm at least making an effort to reconnect. But I'm serious -- in the short span of 2 months, we've gone from "I'd rather not be doing this" sex to "I'm kind of looking forward to it" and I can tell that I am on my way to really wanting it, possibly being the one to initiate.


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:22 PM   #45
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I am ever so sorry and I really do not want to offend but if sex twice a week when you dont want it, in my opinion, doesnt say much for a relationship. (Just throwing it out there but isnt that tantamount to rape? )

Sex is a two way thing, if I dont want it and my OH is bugging me for it, he doesnt get it. Its about mutual respect. By 'giving him what he wants' just because he wants it is degreading, again in my opinion.

I understand that different people approach relationships and sex differently, but I personally believe sex should be in the interests of both and not one. If I thought my OH was going to leave me based on not having enough sex, I certainly would not be in that relationship.
this.

i'm not going to make my self feel like shit simply so my husband can get some, and i know full well he wouldn't want it like that either, he'd rather we have sex infrequently and me enjoy it, rather than twice a week and me hating every second of it and hoping he'll get off me as soon as possible.

our relationship would be more likely to end in divorce through my resentment of having to do that, than through my husband feeling he needs more sex. there is more to my husband, as a man than needing sex. he's not just a penis on legs. i don't want him to feel rejected and unloved, but i cannot and will not make myself feel like shit so he can get his end away, it would do far more damage in the long run

rape - the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.

eta, i'm not saying it is rape, i'm just pointing out that it doesn't have to be taken by force to be seen as rape.


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:24 PM   #46
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Heh I know this feeling! When I was with the ex, he was actually shocked that I went off sex when he would wake me up by pulling the duvet off of me and saying "roll over then"

bloody men!!! lol
How romantic LOL

Have men forgotten what foreplay is?

Who says romance is dead eh!

Bet yours so jealous lol
Your husband just sounds like mine! I have to tell him all the time 'you need to pre-heat the oven before you stick in the turkey!' Not sure he gets it though...he just thinks he's getting a roast for dinner There are times when he does try though, bless him.


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:33 PM   #47
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I agree aley.

I think a lot of women don't really understand how much men NEED sex in order to feel loved. We don't understand it because we're women.

I read this book once, "For Women Only" by Shaunti Feldhann and it completely changed how I view sex and my husbands need's. I highly recommend it!

A woman denying a husband sex just because she doesn't feel like it is denying him one of his basic needs as a man. I don't understand how a woman who loves a man would use sex as a weapon against him. Denying him sex is similar to him ignoring your emotional needs and never talking or listening to you at all.

I understand being tired, exhausted, and having no sex drive. But I'd rather show my husband an act of love and deal with it than be selfish and deny it (all of the time.)

(I don't always say yes...but clear communication works wonders!)

And comparing it to rape is highly offensive and disgusting.
You should check out the blog 'Married Man Sex Life' -- its fascinating. That's where I learned about how men feel about sex! I'll check out that book

I don't always say yes, either. If the baby or toddler had an unexpected night of no sleeping, or I was running around like a chicken without its head all day while I tried to get everything done and then he approaches me in the wrong way or at the wrong moment, I tell him no. (And he respects that.) He's finding that asking me at all is just kind of stupid though... if he doesn't ask and just starts initiating, I just go along with it without complaint.

He's stated that he'd like to be having sex at least once per day. In our current situation, with two young children and his work schedule... I just don't think that's realistic, especially when he works nights. 4-5x a week is my current goal... I know it'll further strengthen our relationship and will set a good example for our children in what to look for in their future relationships.

I agree that its definitely not rape. Comparing it to rape is saying that I allow my husband to rape me 2 or more times a week. Which in my head says that my husband rips my clothes off, throws me on the bed, holds me down and has his way with me (mmmm... though that sounds kind of hot when I think about it in a willing mind frame... ). It also insinuates that I am some sort of a victim. In my own marriage? Hardly. I am a strong, independent woman who is a mother and a wife. I enjoy sex. He's not taking advantage of me in any sort of way and he's never made me do something that I wasn't willing to do.


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:38 PM   #48
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I think men really have the same feelings us women do. We don't like to be turned down, or never touched. It makes us feel undesired and unloved. I would be so upset if he turned me down honestly, which is why I try not too. I'm so attractive to him, and love having sex. But sometimes I'm so exhausted that in my free time I just want to sleep. Last night he wanted sex but I just wanted to relax and lay down, so he got me naked and him and we just cuddled like we use to. It was sweet. I've had him home all day so I think I'll show the fella some loving tonight. I don't do it the way he wants to right now (doggy position) I'm still only 6 weeks pp and sex still hurts a little.
I think its important to show them love and make them feel desirable. But it does get annoying when you can't pick a shirt off the floor without being humped from behind even though you just had sex with him 2 days ago.
I figured 2 times a week was pretty awesome for being a new mom and still sore from birth


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:43 PM   #49
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I think, for a lot of us, it's hard to go from mommy to sexy mode. Obviously men tend to get more turned on quicker than we do (biology, I suppose). A lot of men forget that we need to be warmed up. And honestly? A "warm up" for me could be a surprise dinner, putting the baby to sleep for me, so I can go relax in a shower. I think some men expect a woman to give, give, give (give to the baby, give to him, give to the housework) and forget how exhausted we can be.

I'm more than happy to do whatever a few times a week with mine, but with the understanding that if I am sleep deprived/overexhausted with baby/housework, that I need some more domestic support if I'm going to have any energy saved for him.


 
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 18:45 PM   #50
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I know it'll further strengthen our relationship and will set a good example for our children in what to look for in their future relationships.
i get what you're saying and i want that for my little girl too, but i also don't want her thinking the only way to keep a man happy and a relationship together is for her to spread her legs for him. there is far more to a relationship than that


 
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