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Old Aug 13th, 2011, 17:53 PM   #1
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Hi ladies,
iv been bf since my LO was born he's now 10 weeks. Well hes got silent reflux as well as suffers from colic. We have had an issue with his tummy he has water like poo that are really acidy. He will cry for hours before he goes coz it hurts his tummy so much. When he feeds u can hear his tummy rumbling really loudly. So someone said to me he might b allergic to dairy. I really don't want to stop bf so I'm thinking of trying to go dairry free for a few weeks. Has anyone done this? Did it help?

Also apart from the obvious milk, cheese,butter and yogurt what can't I eat plus what alternitive?
Thank u in advance xx


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Old Aug 13th, 2011, 18:24 PM   #2
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Hi hun

I had to go dairy free for nearly five months as my son had a similar problem, I did try cutting out just the obvious but it really didn't work so had to cut all all dairy. This PDF may be useful; go to page 5 of 6 for the list of what to avoid here in the UK. There is a spelling error it says 'bovine scrum albumin' it is meant to be 'bovine serum albumin', it may be worth noting that this is a trace ingredient in the 2, 3 and 4 month 5-in-1 pediacel vaccine given in the UK, the leaflet warns if someone has an allergy to this ingredient they should not have this injection at all; and two of my boys reacted very badly to this particular injection I believe because of the presence of that ingredient, so with this LO I have delayed that particular injection and am weighing up when and if to give it to him. My two middle boys stopped gaining weight almost completely the day they had the first dose of the injection but in those days the fact it is likely to contain this ingredient was not in the leaflet .

http://www.thh.nhs.uk/documents/_Pat..._A4-May_13.pdf

Its important to understand that this is not a lactose intolerance; rather an intolerance to proteins in dairy products (usually casein but there are some others as well) thus avoiding products with lactose or buying the lactose-free ranges will not help. As for alternatives I'd personally avoid soya as well; soya is a very similar protein to milk so many babies with an intolerance to milk protein will develop an intolerance to soya if they do not have one already. I did read as well that when adults eat a lot of soya products it is quite common to develop an intolerance yourself; I ignored this at my peril and I am now very badly intolerant to soya which is a pain as soya is in so many things. My sister cannot have any dairy products for medical reasons as she has crohns and is both lactose and milk protein intolerant; she tries to avoid having soya as her main alternative and alternates it with different dairy alternatives. There is a really good milk alternative out there called Kara; its made from coconuts but unless you drink it neat you cannot tell it is. It contains a high level of calcium which is good as well. I have found it better than cows milk in cooking and baking as it can withstand much higher temperatures without seperating or burning, so even though my son has outgrown his problem I still buy it and use it for that. For us cutting out dairy; and later soya, citrus fruits and MSG because they caused similar symptoms solved the problem 100%. By 5 months LO was fine with all dairy again even in large quantities; and he himself has dairy stuff in his weaning diet and is fine xx


 
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Old Aug 13th, 2011, 21:59 PM   #3
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Hiya hun
thank you for ur advice!
the more I think about it the more I think omg there's soooo much I can't have! Does eggs count as dairy? Meat?
Have u tried rice milk?
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Old Aug 13th, 2011, 22:45 PM   #4
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My son started acting like this as well at the beginning of the week. I've since given up just milk and I've already noticed a huge difference!


 
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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 01:25 AM   #5
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My son started acting like this as well at the beginning of the week. I've since given up just milk and I've already noticed a huge difference!
Yeah I did as the ped said it would more than likely be the protine in the milk, but no change x


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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #6
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So did anyone elses LO have these symptoms? And did going dairy free help? X


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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 04:54 AM   #7
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Hi

it can take 2-4 weeks to see a real improvement if the intolerance is particularly bad, I have tried rice milk but I feel the coconut milk tastes better as a drink/in cereal/tea etc and is better to cook with. Eggs are not dairy-dairy=anything made from cow's milk (and some would say better to avoid all animal milks in this case as the proteins are very similar to each other). Meat isn't dairy either though 10% of babies with a cows milk protein intolerance will be allergic to beef also, there were a couple of times LO had bloody and mucusy poo (his main symptom) after I hadn't had any dairy, soya or anything else that caused him a problem but I had had beef steak. It only happened with the beef a couple of times though xx


 
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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 05:17 AM   #8
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Excelent thank you very much I have no idea Im a bit dipsy sometimes.
He's never had blood or mucus he's it just brown water that looks acidy but my main concern is the pain he gets with it. The thought that I could be causing it breaks my heart. X


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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 08:46 AM   #9
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How can you tell his poo is acidic? What does acidic poo look like?


 
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Old Aug 14th, 2011, 08:53 AM   #10
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How can you tell his poo is acidic? What does acidic poo look like?
Good question lol just the look I guess because it's very watery and makes his lil bum red as soon as he's done it


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