Mixing rice cereal and BM? How much for 9 week old? - Page 5

Zombers · Apr 7th, 2012, 07:03 AM

What works for one might not work for the other.
My final thoughts since I wasn't wanting to be dragged in by your nonsense drama. My main point was that she might not be doing what is medically recommended but you guys aren't perfect either and in the life of your child you will make decisions that people don't agree with. You all have made your point and if she was ignorant to the dangers before, at least now she knows. Continuing this is basically harassment and your bullying her decision. If you don't agree with her decision then overlook it. Her childs in no imminent danger. Like I said. She could be NOT feeding her child. Moot point.

Ozzieshunni · Apr 7th, 2012, 07:56 AM

Ok, I came from California. Starting solids is advised there from 17 weeks at the very least and closer to six months if you can.

People are overly obsessed with getting a baby to STTN. I was fed baby rice in a bottle and developed gastric issues much later in life so you cannot even guess the harm it may or may not have.

I suggest you find a pedi that is more experienced. Your child sounds absolutely fine on BM at the moment.

Babies stomachs are not designed for solids at nine weeks. It can cause more harm than good. What's the rush? Baby rice is empty calories and it also inhibits iron absorption.

No one needs to think before they type and no one is dumb. It's FACT! We're not just spouting nonsense.

rachy07nz · Apr 7th, 2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyL

My little one is 9 weeks old. My pediatrician said it was ok to start him on rice cereal for his nighttime feed to see if it would help him sleep longer. I have him on a strict schedule during the day, 6 oz of expressed BM every 4 hours (8,12,4,8). Then to bed right after his last feeding. He usually will sleep about 5 hours, waking sometime between 1-2am. Dr. said that is good for a BF baby, but if I wanted to try cereal to see if he'll sleep a bit longer. Pediatrician said, it may or may not help, but I'm willing to try.

Just curious if any of you ladies had tried this and did it help? Also, what's your advice on giving it to him? Should I mix it with the entire 6 oz? or just mix a couple oz of BM and cereal and give the rest just BM?

Any advice will be appreciated!! Thanks!

Didn't want to read and run here; it's sad that this thread got a little bit bitchy when really all that happened is the OP asked for advice, this was given with the majority agreeing no rice to be given just yet as too early, and this now met that these ladies replying are 'bullying' etc. That's just not fair, people were only giving their opinions with the baby's health in mind. At the end of the day, do whatever you feel is best for your baby. I personally wouldn't wean before 17 weeks but myself and other posters were just trying to be helpful. I won't respond to another thread like this again.

Bex84 · Apr 7th, 2012, 09:56 AM

The recomended guidence here as others said is 6 months, its a personal choice when you start to feed rice but I wouldent personally do it. I started weaning at 5 months and that was small tastes and then fully weaned my baby at 6 months, my LO was never in a routine, at 9 weeks she would feed every hour and that was including throughout the night (maybe if you did extra feeds in the day your LO would go longer at night? AGAIN its your choicw). I may be wrong but I would have thought that feeding rice at that age would give them tummy ache so they wouldent sleep as well. My baby still wakes up in the night and she is 8 months, maybe get a second opinion. I dont think anyone was trying to be bitchy, just tell you the latest guidelines, I know from medical advice here and also having a nurse as a sister that it is very frowned upon here to start weaning that early and as others have said research has shown it can cause digestive problems and allergies (of course some will be absolutly fine but I personally wouldent risk it) maybe the guidelines is different where you live, which is why most people on thread differ in opinion.

BunNtheOven · Apr 7th, 2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ashley2pink

Stranjegirl-love how you said some of the responses were mean, but then you call everyone dumb!
Also, just because some kids dont get allergy/digestive issues or they are soooo healthy, doesn't mean the same will hold true for everyone! Why take the chance, however small it may be? The OP probably didnt know there were risks to starting solids too early. I think it would be horrible if those of us who knew of them just kept hush hush about it. And can we please stop bringing up the formula vs. breastfeeding. Thats not at all what this thread is about. Also bun in the oven- so you're saying its fine to give rice cereal at 3 months but ridiculous to wait until 6? How is what you said there any different than us telling her to wait? Except for us doing it for her baby's best interest

Notice, I said AT LEAST 3 months. Doesn't mean I'm going to be counting down until she hits 3 months and start feeding her rice cereal, i'll know when she's ready for it. And I do find it ridiclous to wait until 6 months because it's not like I will be here ALL THE TIME because I work full-time. Everyone that surrounds me was started on solids at a very early age and no problems. And wtf, how is it different? I'm not harping on her like everyone else is, she's going to give her baby rice cereal if you like it or not because it's her baby, not yours. You might as well help her out and do it as safe as possible. Your not going to change her mind, she's already decided to. Today, sure, everything medically changes but it does every couple of years.

Ozzieshunni · Apr 7th, 2012, 10:00 AM

I've not seen one harping post

Just people stating what current medical research is showing. I think people are getting on edge because this is a sensitive topic. I will say, it is widely agreed that weaning should be done no earlier than 17 weeks and as close to six months as possible.

Ozzieshunni · Apr 7th, 2012, 10:02 AM

FYI

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Your infant's digestive tract is not fully functional and is vulnerable to infection. Anything that enters your baby's mouth makes its way into her gastrointestinal tract, which is not yet ready to fight off bacteria and other pathogens. In the first six months, your baby's digestive system will undergo enormous change as it develops the ability to produce enzymes to digest food and antibodies to protect itself.
Birth Transition

During gestation, your baby received nutrients and disposed of waste products through the placenta. At birth, this changed abruptly, but your newborn's digestive system is still very immature. As a result, he may lose up to 10 percent of his body weight in the first days of his life, as he adjusts to using his digestive system. Because a newborn's stomach is small, your infant needs frequent feedings. Breast milk is high in fat because that's the most efficient way for your baby to meet his caloric needs. Ounce for ounce, fat contains over twice as many calories as proteins or carbohydrates.
Immature Digestion

Although a newborn can digest carbohydrates and proteins as well as fat, her pancreas is not fully developed, so your baby produces much lower levels of digestive enzymes than an older child. Enzymes in breast milk and your baby's saliva help make up for this shortcoming. In addition, the esophageal valve, which controls the entry of food into your infant's stomach, is underdeveloped. This is why babies frequently spit up. These digestive shortcomings, along with the immature state of the infant kidney, can put your baby at risk for dehydration, electrolyte imbalance and insufficient absorption of nutrients.
Digestive Lining

The human digestive system has a layer of mucous that protects the gastrointestinal tract from microbes and other contaminants that may be present in food or liquids. In infants, this protective barrier is immature, which puts your baby at risk of infection. Antibodies in breast milk help protect your baby until his digestive mucosal lining matures and he increases his ability to produce his own antibodies, which happens around the age of six months.
Aiding Maturation

Vitamins and minerals help your baby's digestive system mature, but don't give her iron supplements or iron-fortified foods before the age of six months because this extra iron will reduce her ability to absorb iron from foods. In the first six months, breast milk is important to your baby's digestive maturation because it contains intestinal growth factors that help her to develop colonies of beneficial bacterial in her intestines. These bacteria help prevent invasion by pathogens, and they also help your child's intestinal lining to mature.
Solid Foods

Although your baby may exhibit interest in solid foods, his digestive system won't be ready for the transition until he's about six months old. His body will not produce sufficient levels of enzymes to digest starches until around the age of six months, and enzymes that digest carbohydrates don't reach sufficient levels until approximately age seven months. Lipase and bile salts, which aid in fat digestion, don't reach full levels until the age of six to nine months. Moreover, between the ages of four and six months, infants have an "open gut," which allows whole proteins to pass directly from the small intestine into the bloodstream. The function of this opening is to allow antibodies from breast milk to enter the bloodstream, but large molecules from solid foods also can pass through and may cause allergies, or carry pathogens with them.
References

Babies Today: Your Newborn's Digestive System
The Visual MD: Milk Enters the Stomach
Kelly Mom: Why Delay Solids?

Article reviewed by demand32474 Last updated on: Jun 14, 2011

Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/25...#ixzz1rMomUX64

BunNtheOven · Apr 7th, 2012, 10:11 AM

She got the medical advice with the first post, and second, and third. She doesn't need 5 pages telling her it over and over. I think she knows.

Elmo5 · Apr 7th, 2012, 10:40 AM

Amount of rice cereal to give: None. It has no nutritional value and is not needed.

Just because someone has a 'Dr' as a title does not mean they always know best.

IMO 4hrs is a very long time for someone so little to be going between feeds.

lilrojo · Apr 7th, 2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jenniferttc1

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Originally Posted by lilrojo

Lady u need to do whats best for u and your son... people need to stop and think before they speak,or in this case write..

We are just curious as to WHY rice is best. Anyone one these forums daily know that baby cereal is a strong topic, and from what i have seen on this post is alot nicer and helpful responses than most threads about this. We don't need to stop and think before telling someone that their baby can choke on rice in a bottle, or other effects it can cause her healthy baby

First of all i wasnt referring to everyone who responded and some people do need to think before they say rude comments like shes not a good parent because she had a question about starting rice cereal at 9 weeks to help him sleep longer, she didnt say she was going to do it, was just asking.

And its hard to say things on the internet.. this is supposed to be a place for helping eachother not judging.

Apr 7th, 2012, 07:03 AM	#41
Zombers Mum (Mom) Active BnB Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 398	What works for one might not work for the other. My final thoughts since I wasn't wanting to be dragged in by your nonsense drama. My main point was that she might not be doing what is medically recommended but you guys aren't perfect either and in the life of your child you will make decisions that people don't agree with. You all have made your point and if she was ignorant to the dangers before, at least now she knows. Continuing this is basically harassment and your bullying her decision. If you don't agree with her decision then overlook it. Her childs in no imminent danger. Like I said. She could be NOT feeding her child. Moot point.

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Apr 7th, 2012, 07:56 AM	#42
Ozzieshunni Mum (Mom) BnB Elite Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 19,288	Ok, I came from California. Starting solids is advised there from 17 weeks at the very least and closer to six months if you can. People are overly obsessed with getting a baby to STTN. I was fed baby rice in a bottle and developed gastric issues much later in life so you cannot even guess the harm it may or may not have. I suggest you find a pedi that is more experienced. Your child sounds absolutely fine on BM at the moment. Babies stomachs are not designed for solids at nine weeks. It can cause more harm than good. What's the rush? Baby rice is empty calories and it also inhibits iron absorption. No one needs to think before they type and no one is dumb. It's FACT! We're not just spouting nonsense.

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Apr 7th, 2012, 09:56 AM	#44
Bex84 Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: England Posts: 1,651	The recomended guidence here as others said is 6 months, its a personal choice when you start to feed rice but I wouldent personally do it. I started weaning at 5 months and that was small tastes and then fully weaned my baby at 6 months, my LO was never in a routine, at 9 weeks she would feed every hour and that was including throughout the night (maybe if you did extra feeds in the day your LO would go longer at night? AGAIN its your choicw). I may be wrong but I would have thought that feeding rice at that age would give them tummy ache so they wouldent sleep as well. My baby still wakes up in the night and she is 8 months, maybe get a second opinion. I dont think anyone was trying to be bitchy, just tell you the latest guidelines, I know from medical advice here and also having a nurse as a sister that it is very frowned upon here to start weaning that early and as others have said research has shown it can cause digestive problems and allergies (of course some will be absolutly fine but I personally wouldent risk it) maybe the guidelines is different where you live, which is why most people on thread differ in opinion.

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Apr 7th, 2012, 10:00 AM	#46
Ozzieshunni Mum (Mom) BnB Elite Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 19,288	I've not seen one harping post Just people stating what current medical research is showing. I think people are getting on edge because this is a sensitive topic. I will say, it is widely agreed that weaning should be done no earlier than 17 weeks and as close to six months as possible.

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Apr 7th, 2012, 10:11 AM	#48
BunNtheOven Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: US Posts: 1,287	She got the medical advice with the first post, and second, and third. She doesn't need 5 pages telling her it over and over. I think she knows.

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Apr 7th, 2012, 10:40 AM	#49
Elmo5 AutoSignup (SAAB) Active BnB Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 403	Amount of rice cereal to give: None. It has no nutritional value and is not needed. Just because someone has a 'Dr' as a title does not mean they always know best. IMO 4hrs is a very long time for someone so little to be going between feeds.

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