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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 13:48 PM   1
baileybubs
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NHS to pay new mums to breastfeed???


Anyone else in the UK here this lovely snippet of information? Anyone would think we are feeding our babies poison instead of breastfeeding the way they are going on about it!!!
How bad does this make me feel as a mother who couldn't/didn't want to breastfeed???

This country is apparently skint and yet the government are going to bribe women to breastfeed, just ridiculous!

Don't get me wrong I'm not against breastfeeding at all, I wish I could have, but not all of us can and not all of us choose to, it's a personal matter and is up to us how we deal with it, it's not for the government to tell us what we should and shouldn't do!

Sorry rant over, just winds me up!



 
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 14:25 PM   2
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this has been in baby club too..................not v popular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 14:38 PM   3
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Yeah I just spotted it on there and commented. Not impressed by it, plus you just don't know what the mothers who are being paid are consuming themselves! They could be drinking a bottle of wine every night and then BF just to get vouchers, how would this be policed?!
Not to mention unfair to women who cannot breastfeed for whatever reason. I myself had low supply and baby wouldn't latch at all, I tried pumping but wasn't getting enough, perhaps I could have tried harder I do admit, but a cash incentive would not have been a reason for that! I also have a friend who had PND and was taking anti depressants, I'm sure she said she couldn't continue BF because she was taking those tablets (not 100% sure on that but I'm sure there are other tablets that would stop
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 14:46 PM   4
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While it's great they're trying to encourage breastfeeding, that is such a horrible way to go about it. That money can be spent for so many better other things!

Honestly, there isn't enough money in the world to convince me to breastfeed. It's my choice and my body, and trying to throw money at the situation just makes it feel... cheap. How about spending that money to assist women that want to breastfeed but are having issues instead of just rewarding the ones that can do it?

Not to mention a huge slap in the face to the women that want to do it but truly can't for whatever reason.

*facepalm*



 
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 14:52 PM   5
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I couldn't agree more, spend more money on support. I would have loved more support but even had one MW who said to me "some babies just can't do it" (referring to latching). And after a traumatic birth and EMCS feeling exhausted and being left on my own for pretty much 3 days on hospital with my baby and pumping as often as I could to no avail I just wanted her to be ok and she was screaming for food. I can tell you if they'd come to me in the hospital bed after 2 days and said "here's 40 and if you keep it up will give you another 40" I would have actually killed them!



 
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 19:27 PM   6
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Because the amount of money we have to spend on formula isn't financial incentive enough.

This is just complete BS. What is wrong with them?



 
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Old Nov 13th, 2013, 01:36 AM   7
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My thoughts exactly, at one point I was up to almost 16 a week on formula when she was going through a growth spurt and being finicky so sometimes not finishing bottles (so more wastage too). It's already a financial gain to breastfeed so if it was all about extra money people who are on the fence about BF wouldn't really see this as much benefit.
Or maybe the government thinks we are stupid and haven't figured out that BF is cheaper than FF so feels it needs to give us a push?

I've read a lot of other threads on here where it's turned into a debate and people are saying in defense of the scheme that it's not aimed at mothers who can't FF but those who choose not to. But it's not just about physically whether a mother can't BF, for me with having a 7 month old and pregnant again I am unsure if I will be able to BF this time (if it's physically possible) due to having 2 under 2. I'm sure it can be done of course but it can depend on what support I have from others and how long I am alone with my children, I can't ignore my older child for a huge portion of the day whilst BFing or pumping if I have no one else to help me. But that's just me, I know some women who manage just fine.

One person made an excellent comment, how about spending the money on improving paternity leave so mothers who want to BF and struggle can get established whilst their partner is at home to help with other tasks and to let her have some naps etc. I know that may have helped me continue pumping at least.



 
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Old Nov 13th, 2013, 20:34 PM   8
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One person made an excellent comment, how about spending the money on improving paternity leave so mothers who want to BF and struggle can get established whilst their partner is at home to help with other tasks and to let her have some naps etc. I know that may have helped me continue pumping at least.
This. There should be better support for people who want to breastfeed, more awareness of at-breast supplementers for people who don't produce enough milk, etc.

That's one question that this raises: What do they mean by breastfeeding? Do they have to be able to 100% exclusively breastfeed, no expressed bottles, all the parent's breastmilk, etc? Does at-breast supplementing with formula count? Does expressing bottles of breast milk count? Does combination feeding count? Does milk donated from a friend with oversupply count? What's an acceptable ratio of formula:breast milk and bottles:nursing? It's not a black and white issue.



 
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Old Nov 14th, 2013, 05:09 AM   9
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That's what I was thinking too, where do you draw the line? I'm sure they must have come up with something to outline it but how would they monitor it? A mother could just say she is BFing or pumping, would they have to prove it somehow? Will people come snooping around the house to find evidence of formula feeding?
I get that they are trying to encourage those who just don't try or want to bf, rather than allienate those who can't (which is what they are doing) but after being on bnb and talking to RL friends there are so many more women who want to and struggle and so surely supporting them should be first priority rather than just throwing money at those who chose not to.
Besides the fact that it's a woman's personal decision, if a woman doesn't want to BF then offering her shopping vouchers surely won't make any difference? The cost in formula alone is way more than that (although someone did point out that low income households get vouchers for milk but I didn't think you could get formula discounted?).



 
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Old Nov 14th, 2013, 05:47 AM   10
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You have to get something signed via the midwife/health visitor each week and will hae to breast feed in front of the hv, you can tell if someone is exclusively breastfeeding. I feel for those who can't breastfeed money would be better of being spent on breastfeeding resources x



 
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