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Old Jun 17th, 2016, 07:57 AM   1
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Off-grid sustainable living


For a number of years now I've been wanting to homestead, living pretty self sufficiently in an eco friendly house. Husband is finally (mostly) on board and we are committed to buying land, or possibly a share in an eco village etc in the next 18 months. I want to start yesterday but this will have to do. and at least I have time to thoroughly research what I want in an eco house before we just dive in and end up making lots of expensive mistakes.

Anyone else here live like this or aspire to? I think I will turn this into a little journal of sorts as I plan my ideas, but I'd love to chat with others here interested in a similar lifestyle.



 
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Old Jun 21st, 2016, 15:08 PM   2
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That sounds ideal. We dont have the money or time to think about it yet but id like to follow your journey and just wish i could do the same! Sounds like a dream life.



 
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Old Jun 21st, 2016, 16:42 PM   3
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I'm following this! We are slowly getting closer and closer to sustainable living (herb gardens, decluttering, becoming mobile, nondependence on electricity)



 
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Old Jun 21st, 2016, 17:39 PM   4
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Its long been a dream of mine, but I'm now determined to turn it from just a dream to a goal. Being able to get a mortgage to buy some land is going to be the biggest hurdle as we have no credit rating - we've never taken on any debt in the last 6 years since we moved here (except to my parents which doesn't count). But were going to talk to the bank and see what we can do in the next year to be approved. Next month when we get our tax return we'll be able to pay off my patents (again. We were paid off until we had to borrow money to buy our van in September after our car burned down). And we're really going to buckle down this coming year and try to live entirely off DHs salary and bank my benefits (which are significant - I currently get $800/fn and once Jeremy is added it will be $1000/fn, plus I usually get another $5000 at tax time).
We used to only have my benefits to live off, which were smaller then, but we've definitely become accustom to DH having a salary the last 2 years lol. If we can achieve that though we should easily qualify for a mortgage for some land, then we would build a small cob-bale house on it - unless we can find an affordable mobile home or caravan, and a composting toilet and get a small solar power set up and then move in and begin our slow build



 
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Old Jun 22nd, 2016, 09:32 AM   5
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We may have to push my goal back a while. DH is still discussing moving back to Canada and he says possibly in a year or two (though I don't think it will be that soon)
Id forgotten the main reason we haven't pursued this sooner (aside from having no money) is the uncertainty of where we will ultimately live.



 
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Old Jun 22nd, 2016, 14:29 PM   6
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May I ask what your benefits are?

We don't want to get into a loan. Don't know what rates are in AU but here it's ridiculous! Pretty much have to keep income tacked on for years longer than ideal. We're trying to move into a caravan or RV too and save up for a piece of property without any electricity or sewage, hopefully with a well on-site. Ideally through a private seller and set-up a contract

It is really scary to take that leap with so much uncertainty. Especially with little ones. Have thought about moving to Canada too, what is the process like to move internationally? Where would you think of locating to?



 
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Old Jun 22nd, 2016, 16:57 PM   7
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Id love to be able to do it without a loan, but I cant see it being possible - dh wont move just anywhere so we cant just look for cheap land anywhere and pack up and go. I know in some parts of the US you can get a couple acres for $10k or less but the cheapest I've ever seen is 50k for land with no building entitlement, no road access, and in areas without phone service and we don't want to be that completely unplugged. With a miracle we might be able to find owner financing. But since DH still intends to work a mortgage is achievable for us.

If we moved it would be to BC. Dh has known since we moved here that's the only place I will return to (that's where his family is from, and I have family there too). But it would mean basically starting over from scratch :/. Our savings would be pretty much used up, or at least a significant dent in them depending when we moved just from moving, so we wouldn't be able to buy land right away, and dhs education and work experience here would probably not count for much so finding a good job would likely not be easy. And wed have much shorter growing and building season. Blah.

Oh and the benefits I get are because Australia is very generous with assistance for families. Every family that earns under $100k gets one benefit and where one partner earns under around $10k they get a second one too. It goes up depending how many kids you have (maxing out at 6 kids) Its pretty insignificant when you earn 100k but it is higher fir lower incomes, maxing out at full benefit for incomes at $45k or less (dh earns a little under 45k so I still get max family assistance, and its very substantial. Like its about $1500/month for 3kids. Or more as I opt to get smaller payments fortnightly and a lump sum at the end in case dh ends up earning more than estimated so we don't get paid too much). You don't even have to apply for them - registering a Childs birth and paying taxes gets you the benefits automatically



 
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Old Jun 26th, 2016, 12:43 PM   8
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I'll be following too!

We just moved to a house with 3 acres in pursuit of a more sustainable lifestyle. We don't want to live off the grid, but do want to grow most of our own food and hopefully eventually make a small income from plants/animals that we grow. We have a lot of dreams and plans, but aren't the most motivated of folks lol. Our main task since we moved has been fencing our place so we can have livestock without the neighbor dogs killing them (as happened to the previous owners).



 
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I'll be following too!

We just moved to a house with 3 acres in pursuit of a more sustainable lifestyle. We don't want to live off the grid, but do want to grow most of our own food and hopefully eventually make a small income from plants/animals that we grow. We have a lot of dreams and plans, but aren't the most motivated of folks lol. Our main task since we moved has been fencing our place so we can have livestock without the neighbor dogs killing them (as happened to the previous owners).
Hello fellow Washingtonian

Natalie those benefits sound great! We have something similar here, one for food and one for supplemental income. It's been helping us get by since OH was in school and I was pg not working



 
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Old Jun 26th, 2016, 16:07 PM   10
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Good luck getting your place properly fenced PitaKat it sounds great . Ultimately I just want to become more self sufficient soon, even if it takes us longer to go off grid and build my cob house.

I've now told dh that if he does plan to move back home I'm ok with that (even though it would be hard to leave such an ideal year round growing climate and he wouldn't get his avocado trees) but in the meantime I want to get on some rented land and just start living more self sufficiently. So that's my goal right now, to look for somewhere nearby where we can rent 1/2 or even a 1/4 acre with a cottage or mobile home on it.
Which is actually what I was looking for last June, and even found a couple places, but at the time dh was in school in the evenings as well and living half an hour out of town wasn't something he wanted to add to his schedule. Time to revisit it.



 
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