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Old Dec 5th, 2016, 15:19 PM   1
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Thinking on a daily basis about norivirus


Or any stomach bug for that matter. What is wrong with me??? I never used to get stomach bugs growing up. I went years without vomiting. When i was pregnant i had nausea and vomited once because i hated the idea of being sick. Ive always hated the idea of being sick for as long as i can remember. But it never crossed my mind on a regular basis. Throughout school i mixed and never got ill. I worked for 9 years before pregnancy and vomited once in tgat time.

The first year of my daughters life we were fine. It never entered my head we could get sick. Then we started playgroup. 3 months later at 13 months old she vomited all afternoon. I coped fine through most of it. I was unprepared and ended up with carpets covered in sick. After a few hours i was relieved my partner came home. I breathed a deep sigh of relief that night when she was asleep. The next day she was fine. But 24 hours later she vomited all over her cot. Then again the next night. It was horrible hearing her coughing and seeing her covered in sick. 48 hours later i got it. Then her dad got it the next day whilst I recovered in bed.

Two months later she ended up with another vomiting bug that started ten minutes after we got out a taxi. We was at my mums. Luckily my partner picked us up as he was working from home. This time i felt so anxious. I felt like i wanted to run away rather than deal with it. She tried to climb on me everytime she was going to vomit. It was awful seeing her like it. Again she vomited 3 nights afterwards. We caught it 48 hours after but only vomited once each.

Ever since then i think about it constantly everyday. I hate taking her to playgroup. Im literally avoiding it now till after christmas because I'm that worried. Everytime i go into town i worry she could get ill in the shops. She vomited once in the carseat a couple of weeks ago and i felt so stressed and anxious for the rest of the day it was ridiculous.

I genuinely feel scared of when it will strike next. I worry so much it will catch us in the week of christmas. Is it normal to feel so worried about your toddler being sick?

I just hate the smell the mess the sound and the way that there is no warning. Any advice or reassurance would be appreciated. Surely we wont get sickness bugs several times a year. So many people are getting sick on my facebook right now 😟



 
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Old Dec 8th, 2016, 07:51 AM   2
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I have no advce but I am the same
Really stress and obsess over it. Anxiety over sickness and sick bugs is SKY HIGH



 
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Old Dec 8th, 2016, 07:59 AM   3
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I have mentioned it before in threads but we have killed the bug before the vomiting began for years in our house by drinking a tablespoon of normal cupboard vinegar when you feel a belly ache or when/if they complain of one. The bug sits on the food in your stomach, slows your digestion so that the food builds up, then aggravates your belly so that it can be spread again on the now coated sick! If you think about how people use vinegar to clean in the home it acts as the same principal but in the belly, it goes in and starts killing the bug. I promise you that for us 95% of the time it has killed it out right within about 20 minutes. Occasionally I have got their too late given a bit of vinegar and had the child puking almost straight away but usually now whenever anyone has the bellyache the come to me and say 'Mum I have a belly ache can I have some vinegar' and thats the end of it!
If one person is the house is puking then its also a good idea to have a spoonful yourselves just to stop things before they start, this doesnt mean that you cant recontaminate yourself a while later of course

You can even try a teaspoon for the kids and a tablespoon for the adults, followed by a little water to wash the taste away.

Just adding a bit more
When me and my 15 yr old son first tried it we were both at the point of heads over the toilet, in fact I was sat on the floor next to the toilet and thought f*** it, I have to try, he was the same, drank a bit of vinegar, laid down for a while,20 minutes later we were both up in the hall in astonishment, gone! He went onto a party that night, no trouble at all. And about 2 weeks ago my 9yr old little girl was stood in the kitchen, grey faced, drooling at the mouth holding her stomach, saying mum I've got the bug can I have the vinegar, gave it to her, again within a short while big grin on her face, gone, I honestly could have filmed her changing.

If anyone tries it, please leave a review and spread the word lol



 
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Old Dec 8th, 2016, 08:49 AM   4
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I'm the same it controls my life. I'm so anoxious when anyone comes near me I can't leave the house or go to work.

I take this
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/sho...elief-60001998

It's recommended in all the health magazines to prevent the norvo virus. I give it lo as well.

I'm really struggling at the mo though and waiting for a referral from the gp



 
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Old Dec 9th, 2016, 16:45 PM   5
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I have mentioned it before in threads but we have killed the bug before the vomiting began for years in our house by drinking a tablespoon of normal cupboard vinegar when you feel a belly ache or when/if they complain of one. The bug sits on the food in your stomach, slows your digestion so that the food builds up, then aggravates your belly so that it can be spread again on the now coated sick! If you think about how people use vinegar to clean in the home it acts as the same principal but in the belly, it goes in and starts killing the bug. I promise you that for us 95% of the time it has killed it out right within about 20 minutes. Occasionally I have got their too late given a bit of vinegar and had the child puking almost straight away but usually now whenever anyone has the bellyache the come to me and say 'Mum I have a belly ache can I have some vinegar' and thats the end of it!
If one person is the house is puking then its also a good idea to have a spoonful yourselves just to stop things before they start, this doesnt mean that you cant recontaminate yourself a while later of course

You can even try a teaspoon for the kids and a tablespoon for the adults, followed by a little water to wash the taste away.

Just adding a bit more
When me and my 15 yr old son first tried it we were both at the point of heads over the toilet, in fact I was sat on the floor next to the toilet and thought f*** it, I have to try, he was the same, drank a bit of vinegar, laid down for a while,20 minutes later we were both up in the hall in astonishment, gone! He went onto a party that night, no trouble at all. And about 2 weeks ago my 9yr old little girl was stood in the kitchen, grey faced, drooling at the mouth holding her stomach, saying mum I've got the bug can I have the vinegar, gave it to her, again within a short while big grin on her face, gone, I honestly could have filmed her changing.

If anyone tries it, please leave a review and spread the word lol

This is not actually how viruses work and absolutely not what happens inside your body when you vomit from a stomach virus. What you're describing is the placebo effect.



 
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Old Dec 11th, 2016, 13:36 PM   6
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I will take the placebo effect if it keeps me from vomiting!

We have had ONE stomach bug, luckily it was one of the viruses that kids get but adults don't, although every adult had a day of unexplained malaise, but no vomiting. The kids vomited for a week. Just one day of frequent vomit, maybe once a day or less for the rest of the week, but MAN, always in bed.



 
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Old Dec 15th, 2016, 15:04 PM   7
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You have emetophobia. Make an appointment with your GP and ask to be referred to psychology. If they don't take it seriously, try another doctor. Anything that causes intrusive thoughts or your makes you question your ability to parent (when she is sick) is deserving of help.

I've been emetophobic for as long as I can remember and it's certainly always affected parts of my life - avoiding ill people, not drinking too much etc - but it wasn't a constant presence until my husband got noro 8 months ago. Like you, it now takes up almost all of my day. I am constantly hyper-vigilant for any signs that one of us is ill, and I continually play on loop what happened when my husband was ill. I have had bouts of bad anxiety ever since, and at points have felt like there's no point in living if I'm going to feel like this forever.

I went to my GP in the middle of a complete breakdown and now have regular CBT and psychotherapy. We focus on techniques to feel better in times of anxiety, and addressing/correcting the issues that have led to this. It has helped tremendously, and there is definitely a light at the end of the tunnel for me now.

It's a surprisingly common phobia and is recognised as one of the debilitating because there is no safe place - you're scared of yourself, your loved ones, and your home. I sympathise with you entirely, and hand on heart can say that I know exactly what you are feeling. I know it's a really cheesy thing to say, but you are not alone.

Please please please speak to someone about this and try to get the help you deserve. There are a few things that have helped me in the times of crippling anxiety, I hope they can help you while you get some other help:

- Don't google anything to do with it. You might find very short term relief, but overall you're validating the irrational concerns and you'll notice that you generally feel worse for the rest of the day
- De-catastrophise it. For example, part of my concerns specifically with noro was being so ill that I couldn't do anything else - work, look after kids etc. So I visualise the events in my head and think, realistically, what would happen. For you, you could think - ok, worst case scenario there is vomit on the carpet, picture yourself being able to clean it up, or even hiring a carpet cleaner.
- Distraction. Not healthy long term, but when you're having a bad day keep yourself busy. In a moment of severe anxiety try to focus on something outwith yourself.
- Rationalise it. How many hundreds of times have you been at the shops? How many of those times have you suddenly been ill? Think about how many hundreds of thousands of people you've passed in public, how many of them have been ill in front of you? You said you've hardly ever been sick, just because you're thinking about it a lot now doesn't make you more likely to vomit. I bet you have a very strong immune system, and that is genetic so your daughter will as well. She's little and so it needs to build up a bit, so there will be a bug or two.
- Time moves on. If one of you gets ill, it won't last forever, and it's helpful to remember that. If I'm in a moment where I'm convinced one of us is about to get struck down, I reassure myself that every second of it will be a step closer to the end, you're not going to get stuck in a lifelong bug.
- Track your thoughts. Try not to get more caught up in them than you already are, but tomorrow make a mental note every time you have an intrusive thought or anxiety. When I said to my psychologist that my anxiety etc was constant, he simply said "no it isn't, you think it is but I'm certain it isn't". After that I mentally acknowledged every bad thought and realised that actually he was right. There are times when it's every ten minutes, or lasts a solid hour, but generally speaking I get good breaks from it during the day and realising that really helped me for some reason.

Sorry for the essay, but hopefully it's of some help.



 
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Old Dec 24th, 2016, 08:21 AM   8
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I have mentioned it before in threads but we have killed the bug before the vomiting began for years in our house by drinking a tablespoon of normal cupboard vinegar when you feel a belly ache or when/if they complain of one. The bug sits on the food in your stomach, slows your digestion so that the food builds up, then aggravates your belly so that it can be spread again on the now coated sick! If you think about how people use vinegar to clean in the home it acts as the same principal but in the belly, it goes in and starts killing the bug. I promise you that for us 95% of the time it has killed it out right within about 20 minutes. Occasionally I have got their too late given a bit of vinegar and had the child puking almost straight away but usually now whenever anyone has the bellyache the come to me and say 'Mum I have a belly ache can I have some vinegar' and thats the end of it!
If one person is the house is puking then its also a good idea to have a spoonful yourselves just to stop things before they start, this doesnt mean that you cant recontaminate yourself a while later of course

You can even try a teaspoon for the kids and a tablespoon for the adults, followed by a little water to wash the taste away.

Just adding a bit more
When me and my 15 yr old son first tried it we were both at the point of heads over the toilet, in fact I was sat on the floor next to the toilet and thought f*** it, I have to try, he was the same, drank a bit of vinegar, laid down for a while,20 minutes later we were both up in the hall in astonishment, gone! He went onto a party that night, no trouble at all. And about 2 weeks ago my 9yr old little girl was stood in the kitchen, grey faced, drooling at the mouth holding her stomach, saying mum I've got the bug can I have the vinegar, gave it to her, again within a short while big grin on her face, gone, I honestly could have filmed her changing.

If anyone tries it, please leave a review and spread the word lol

Thank you for this reply. I have literally just tried this trick! My dd was vomiting Thursday night and i am
Hoping i am not poorly for tomorrow. Hope it works. Thank you x



 
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Old Dec 24th, 2016, 08:26 AM   9
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You have emetophobia. Make an appointment with your GP and ask to be referred to psychology. If they don't take it seriously, try another doctor. Anything that causes intrusive thoughts or your makes you question your ability to parent (when she is sick) is deserving of help.

I've been emetophobic for as long as I can remember and it's certainly always affected parts of my life - avoiding ill people, not drinking too much etc - but it wasn't a constant presence until my husband got noro 8 months ago. Like you, it now takes up almost all of my day. I am constantly hyper-vigilant for any signs that one of us is ill, and I continually play on loop what happened when my husband was ill. I have had bouts of bad anxiety ever since, and at points have felt like there's no point in living if I'm going to feel like this forever.

I went to my GP in the middle of a complete breakdown and now have regular CBT and psychotherapy. We focus on techniques to feel better in times of anxiety, and addressing/correcting the issues that have led to this. It has helped tremendously, and there is definitely a light at the end of the tunnel for me now.

It's a surprisingly common phobia and is recognised as one of the debilitating because there is no safe place - you're scared of yourself, your loved ones, and your home. I sympathise with you entirely, and hand on heart can say that I know exactly what you are feeling. I know it's a really cheesy thing to say, but you are not alone.

Please please please speak to someone about this and try to get the help you deserve. There are a few things that have helped me in the times of crippling anxiety, I hope they can help you while you get some other help:

- Don't google anything to do with it. You might find very short term relief, but overall you're validating the irrational concerns and you'll notice that you generally feel worse for the rest of the day
- De-catastrophise it. For example, part of my concerns specifically with noro was being so ill that I couldn't do anything else - work, look after kids etc. So I visualise the events in my head and think, realistically, what would happen. For you, you could think - ok, worst case scenario there is vomit on the carpet, picture yourself being able to clean it up, or even hiring a carpet cleaner.
- Distraction. Not healthy long term, but when you're having a bad day keep yourself busy. In a moment of severe anxiety try to focus on something outwith yourself.
- Rationalise it. How many hundreds of times have you been at the shops? How many of those times have you suddenly been ill? Think about how many hundreds of thousands of people you've passed in public, how many of them have been ill in front of you? You said you've hardly ever been sick, just because you're thinking about it a lot now doesn't make you more likely to vomit. I bet you have a very strong immune system, and that is genetic so your daughter will as well. She's little and so it needs to build up a bit, so there will be a bug or two.
- Time moves on. If one of you gets ill, it won't last forever, and it's helpful to remember that. If I'm in a moment where I'm convinced one of us is about to get struck down, I reassure myself that every second of it will be a step closer to the end, you're not going to get stuck in a lifelong bug.
- Track your thoughts. Try not to get more caught up in them than you already are, but tomorrow make a mental note every time you have an intrusive thought or anxiety. When I said to my psychologist that my anxiety etc was constant, he simply said "no it isn't, you think it is but I'm certain it isn't". After that I mentally acknowledged every bad thought and realised that actually he was right. There are times when it's every ten minutes, or lasts a solid hour, but generally speaking I get good breaks from it during the day and realising that really helped me for some reason.

Sorry for the essay, but hopefully it's of some help.

Thank you so much for your help. I am abit worried today as its christmas eve and about 42 hours ago my dd vomited 12 times. I have a slight heavy feeling in my stomach that has been there since last night. Not sure if it is slowly going to strike me down. But yeah this is the worst time for it to happen and i am trying my best to be positive. Just worried that the exciting plan for tomorrow that i have pictured for weeks will be taken from me



 
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Hope you're OK and don't catch the bug hun



 
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