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Old Feb 23rd, 2017, 08:58 AM   31
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Old. I love the character and the history. I find new builds so dull and lacking any sort of homely feel. I hate how they're being built here there and everywhere, totally destroying once beautiful land .
Because we have a severe housing shortage, we need hundreds of thousands more homes in this country, they're not building anywhere near enough so expect to see it continue, even green belt land.
I don't agree. We have plenty of houses, they're just not affordable.
I suppose all the experts are wrong then...there hasn't been a housing crisis for decades? Say that to the people waiting years for social housing.

And why do you think they're not affordable? Because there's not enough, supply and demand.



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Old. I love the character and the history. I find new builds so dull and lacking any sort of homely feel. I hate how they're being built here there and everywhere, totally destroying once beautiful land .
Because we have a severe housing shortage, we need hundreds of thousands more homes in this country, they're not building anywhere near enough so expect to see it continue, even green belt land.
I don't agree. We have plenty of houses, they're just not affordable.
I suppose all the experts are wrong then...there hasn't been a housing crisis for decades? Say that to the people waiting years for social housing.

And why do you think they're not affordable? Because there's not enough, supply and demand.
This isn't true everywhere though. I live in Scotland and we don't have enough social housing but we have plenty of private homes available yet they are still building more. Almost all the desirable ex local authority homes are now privately owned (mines included, haha) so if you get a council house here it is probably going to be in a bad area. Plus, you can actually rent from a private landlord at a similar price point where I am. Our last flat was rented, 1 bed, no "issues" and modern decor, we only paid 350 pcm and it was a private let.



 
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Old. I love the character and the history. I find new builds so dull and lacking any sort of homely feel. I hate how they're being built here there and everywhere, totally destroying once beautiful land .
Because we have a severe housing shortage, we need hundreds of thousands more homes in this country, they're not building anywhere near enough so expect to see it continue, even green belt land.
I don't agree. We have plenty of houses, they're just not affordable.
I suppose all the experts are wrong then...there hasn't been a housing crisis for decades? Say that to the people waiting years for social housing.

And why do you think they're not affordable? Because there's not enough, supply and demand.
This isn't true everywhere though. I live in Scotland and we don't have enough social housing but we have plenty of private homes available yet they are still building more. Almost all the desirable ex local authority homes are now privately owned (mines included, haha) so if you get a council house here it is probably going to be in a bad area. Plus, you can actually rent from a private landlord at a similar price point where I am. Our last flat was rented, 1 bed, no "issues" and modern decor, we only paid 350 pcm and it was a private let.
No it isn't everywhere, house prices will be an indication on whether an area is affected. Builders won't build houses unless they will sell them, if people are buying them- they are needed. Creating a larger housing stock isn't just about directly building more council housing, the more houses you have, the less demand, prices stabilise making renting (or buying)more affordable for more people. So more private housing is still important. I don't know about Scotland, it's similar in my home town in Wales no one struggles to buy I don't think but in the south of the country especially there absolutely is, governments haven't made housing pivotal to their election campaigns for decades for folly. Those ghastly new build estates people have issues with have sections for affordable housing and sometimes social housing. We need to build around the country to disperse people a bit as well. Of course there will be sections of the country with enough housing (too much maybe!) but as a whole, as a country, we do not, having moved around a lot I've seen both types of area. We are an island nation with a growing population, it's an issue that'll only continue but there will always be NIMBYs. We're buying a house with beautiful countryside views, but I know the land could be built on, I can't afford to buy the field...so I will suck it up!



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Old. I love the character and the history. I find new builds so dull and lacking any sort of homely feel. I hate how they're being built here there and everywhere, totally destroying once beautiful land .
Because we have a severe housing shortage, we need hundreds of thousands more homes in this country, they're not building anywhere near enough so expect to see it continue, even green belt land.
I don't agree. We have plenty of houses, they're just not affordable.
I suppose all the experts are wrong then...there hasn't been a housing crisis for decades? Say that to the people waiting years for social housing.

And why do you think they're not affordable? Because there's not enough, supply and demand.
This isn't true everywhere though. I live in Scotland and we don't have enough social housing but we have plenty of private homes available yet they are still building more. Almost all the desirable ex local authority homes are now privately owned (mines included, haha) so if you get a council house here it is probably going to be in a bad area. Plus, you can actually rent from a private landlord at a similar price point where I am. Our last flat was rented, 1 bed, no "issues" and modern decor, we only paid 350 pcm and it was a private let.
No it isn't everywhere, house prices will be an indication on whether an area is affected. Builders won't build houses unless they will sell them, if people are buying them- they are needed. Creating a larger housing stock isn't just about directly building more council housing, the more houses you have, the less demand, prices stabilise making renting (or buying)more affordable for more people. So more private housing is still important. I don't know about Scotland, it's similar in my home town in Wales no one struggles to buy I don't think but in the south of the country especially there absolutely is, governments haven't made housing pivotal to their election campaigns for decades for folly. Those ghastly new build estates people have issues with have sections for affordable housing and sometimes social housing. We need to build around the country to disperse people a bit as well. Of course there will be sections of the country with enough housing (too much maybe!) but as a whole, as a country, we do not, having moved around a lot I've seen both types of area. We are an island nation with a growing population, it's an issue that'll only continue but there will always be NIMBYs. We're buying a house with beautiful countryside views, but I know the land could be built on, I can't afford to buy the field...so I will suck it up!
We actually have a declining birth rate though, so to future proof our housing stock, it isn't family homes we need, and that is what is being built. We need bungalows and single storey living, or housing suitable for multi generational living.



 
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Old. I love the character and the history. I find new builds so dull and lacking any sort of homely feel. I hate how they're being built here there and everywhere, totally destroying once beautiful land .
Because we have a severe housing shortage, we need hundreds of thousands more homes in this country, they're not building anywhere near enough so expect to see it continue, even green belt land.
I don't agree. We have plenty of houses, they're just not affordable.
I suppose all the experts are wrong then...there hasn't been a housing crisis for decades? Say that to the people waiting years for social housing.

And why do you think they're not affordable? Because there's not enough, supply and demand.
This isn't true everywhere though. I live in Scotland and we don't have enough social housing but we have plenty of private homes available yet they are still building more. Almost all the desirable ex local authority homes are now privately owned (mines included, haha) so if you get a council house here it is probably going to be in a bad area. Plus, you can actually rent from a private landlord at a similar price point where I am. Our last flat was rented, 1 bed, no "issues" and modern decor, we only paid 350 pcm and it was a private let.
No it isn't everywhere, house prices will be an indication on whether an area is affected. Builders won't build houses unless they will sell them, if people are buying them- they are needed. Creating a larger housing stock isn't just about directly building more council housing, the more houses you have, the less demand, prices stabilise making renting (or buying)more affordable for more people. So more private housing is still important. I don't know about Scotland, it's similar in my home town in Wales no one struggles to buy I don't think but in the south of the country especially there absolutely is, governments haven't made housing pivotal to their election campaigns for decades for folly. Those ghastly new build estates people have issues with have sections for affordable housing and sometimes social housing. We need to build around the country to disperse people a bit as well. Of course there will be sections of the country with enough housing (too much maybe!) but as a whole, as a country, we do not, having moved around a lot I've seen both types of area. We are an island nation with a growing population, it's an issue that'll only continue but there will always be NIMBYs. We're buying a house with beautiful countryside views, but I know the land could be built on, I can't afford to buy the field...so I will suck it up!
We actually have a declining birth rate though, so to future proof our housing stock, it isn't family homes we need, and that is what is being built. We need bungalows and single storey living, or housing suitable for multi generational living.
Yes this is true, a few of the national developers build "lifetime" homes, Larkfleet does this, they're homes that are designed to grow with you, so essentially they're disabled friendly if your circumstances change, low light switches, wide doors etc. But it's not a enough really, bungalows use a lot of land so I can't imagine many developers wanting to go down that route (not agreeing with them though) it's like this whole bedroom tax issue, people need to downsize but there isn't in the homes to down size too. Planning laws are very frustrating in this country, one of the reasons you get so many squashed homes in a small estate (with limited parking) is because the planning was only granted on building X amount, it's not always because developers are greedy, councils are being pressured by government to build more and more. But of course there's loads of issues, with develpers and planning. The whole thing is very flawed and it astounds me 60+ years after these issues were highlighted they still haven't got their heads around it, but land in this county is limited and expensive, I assume this is a big part of it.



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I moved to suffolk and over the countryside it is evident to see that demand. My OH grew up in a tiny Hamlet which is now covered in newbuilds. They crop up everywhere and they all sell. The demand is huge. Young families and separations etc the houses do not stay empty.



 
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They sell because they're cheap and affordable - which is why they're being built. We have loads of houses on the market in Cornwall that stay on the market for ages. The new houses are sold before they're even completed.



 
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They sell because they're cheap and affordable - which is why they're being built. We have loads of houses on the market in Cornwall that stay on the market for ages. The new houses are sold before they're even completed.
New builds are not cheap nor affordable, it's well known they're over priced, but it's incentives like help to buy that has made them desirable and available to many first time buyers. I think help to buy should have been for all properties, big developers are massively profiting from these mass developments and it's quite likely artificially inflating prices depending on who you listen to. That said, it doesn't change the fact there is a housing shortage, more houses need building, government needs to be doing more to support the housing market generally not just new builds.

But even if they were "cheap and affordable" I don't see how that can be a bad thing?!



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I think help to buy should have been for all properties, big developers are massively profiting from these mass developments and it's quite likely artificially inflating prices depending on who you listen to.
I guess it depends on the part of the country you're living in as to house shortages, although it's mostly a nation wide problem, certain areas are struggling more than others. But the part in bold is what I was trying to say. There's not enough done to help people get on the market in the first place. Before building cheap houses on every available land, in my opinion more should be done to help buy houses that are already available. But I guess that would be in an ideal world.



 
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I think help to buy should have been for all properties, big developers are massively profiting from these mass developments and it's quite likely artificially inflating prices depending on who you listen to.
I guess it depends on the part of the country you're living in as to house shortages, although it's mostly a nation wide problem, certain areas are struggling more than others. But the part in bold is what I was trying to say. There's not enough done to help people get on the market in the first place. Before building cheap houses on every available land, in my opinion more should be done to help buy houses that are already available. But I guess that would be in an ideal world.
Yeah I do think more should have been done to help people buy all sorts of properties. 95% mortgages are back but the benefit to HTB is the low LTV which enables less deposit, but better rate mortgage and a higher price tag. Developers have massively benefitted from this and I think it's done more for them than the country. BUT it doesn't change the fact there is a shortage, I can't remember the figure but it runs into the hundreds of thousands, and they really aren't building on every piece of land, when you look at the amount of undeveloped land it is actually a very high figure, people are mostly in urban areas.

The best way to get more people housed is to get a grip of the house prices, and that is only going to happen when there is a larger supply (however that supply is obtained, building is one element but there's also looking at holiday homes, homes particularly in London sat empty bought for investment alone, empty flats on top on shops etc etc).



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