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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #51
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If surrogacy contracts mean nothing in the state they all live in why did they even risk surrogacy? As they must have known this could happen they should of adopted its not like the children are even biologically related to them anyway so whats wrong with traditional adoption or were they refused due to her mental health issues? I feel bad for them but like Blah said IVF was a gamble anyway so i don't see how money should come into it. Also the birth mother must have had her reasons for trying to get the babies back its not free to go to court i bet it cost plenty to get her babies back so i doubt she did it on a whim especially with 4 other children to support.


 
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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 04:52 AM   #52
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all im saying is if the babies had been bio link to the couple than she couldn't keep them REGARDLESS of what they told her or didnt tell her so idk y its ok for her to keep them now.


 
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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 06:02 AM   #53
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Ugh, how horrible. Personally, I think if you agree to be a surrogate you have to prepare yourself for the fact you will be giving your babes away. I know I couldn't do it, which is why I never would.

Very sad all round.
but i guess it doesn't matter how much you try to prepare yourself, you can't control the feelings you feel once baby is born?
I agree. It is very difficult for ANYONE to understand the feelings a woman goes through when she does this for someone else. It's not like baking a cake for a friend for their birthday. It's a real person made with the SURROGATE'S egg mostly, grown inside the surrogate for 9 months, given birth to by the surrogate. I don't think it can be underestimated how difficult this must be for a woman. I know they agree to do it, but it's not something you can prepare for until you have actually been through it! I know someone who has done this for a couple and let me just say it really is NOT as simple as: agree to be surrogate, cook the baby, hand baby over, bye bye baby.
I never said it was easy to be a surrogate, but I don't see why someone who has done it four times before would not be aware of that.


 
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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 06:10 AM   #54
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Ugh, how horrible. Personally, I think if you agree to be a surrogate you have to prepare yourself for the fact you will be giving your babes away. I know I couldn't do it, which is why I never would.

Very sad all round.
but i guess it doesn't matter how much you try to prepare yourself, you can't control the feelings you feel once baby is born?
I agree. It is very difficult for ANYONE to understand the feelings a woman goes through when she does this for someone else. It's not like baking a cake for a friend for their birthday. It's a real person made with the SURROGATE'S egg mostly, grown inside the surrogate for 9 months, given birth to by the surrogate. I don't think it can be underestimated how difficult this must be for a woman. I know they agree to do it, but it's not something you can prepare for until you have actually been through it! I know someone who has done this for a couple and let me just say it really is NOT as simple as: agree to be surrogate, cook the baby, hand baby over, bye bye baby.
I never said it was easy to be a surrogate, but I don't see why someone who has done it four times before would not be aware of that.
see thats why i think there is soooooooo much more to this story than is being released, she has done it before, but clearly something didn't sit right with her this time for her to take the babies back


 

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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 06:11 AM   #55
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Ugh, how horrible. Personally, I think if you agree to be a surrogate you have to prepare yourself for the fact you will be giving your babes away. I know I couldn't do it, which is why I never would.

Very sad all round.
exactly if you agree to do it you KNOW your gonna be giving away the babies therefore if she couldnt do it she shouldnt of agree'd to do it in the first place..
i feel sad for the parents who lost the custody battle


 
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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 06:19 AM   #56
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If you look at it as a adoption instead of surragocy i think people might be more understanding of the birth mother in a staight forward adoption there is a cooling off period where the birth mother is entitled to change her mind i think its 6 weeks. So in this case the couple get the babies for 4 weeks and the birth mother changes her mind and wants the babies back in a normal adoption the babies would not have been given to the parents till after the 6 week period as a lot of people change their mind. From googling this story the full adoption had not gone through yet only the interim adoption order so the birth mother is entirley within her rights to have her babies back where as if the adoption order had gone through the babies would stay with their adoptive parents. The whole situation is a mess and i feel sad for all involved.


 
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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 06:38 AM   #57
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I think it is very sad for the adoptive parents. They had tried for 8 years, and this was probably one of their last efforts or even hope of having a baby of their own. I think after 8 years they were probably desperate to have children, and then to have this happen after a month of having the babies. I think that the pain that the adoptive parents went through was most likely unbareable. And then they have to question wether they will ever have hope ever agian. They said they still had some frozen embroys which they would try to use themselves. I hope they work for them I really do, but then they will have to save the money to even get a chance to undergo the IVF. Will they ever even get a chance... it's just sad.

I think if you enter into an agreement then stick to it, especially if you know they weren't even your babies. I feel the fact that those babies wouldn't even exist without the adoptive perants time, effort, etc... that should be taken into consideration.

We are all judging this women on an UNKNOWN mental issue that she has been medicated for 10 years with no problems. We don't even know what it is? IT could be something as simple as anxiety, depression, etc. Her doctor said she would of been more then able to care for those children. I think this says alot.

I guess if we are in that situation we will never really be able to give a honest opinion, but it is in my opinion if you agree to be a surrogate you must realize the babies will be going to another family at the end and accept that... full stop. If you can't do it, then don't agree to it.


 
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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 06:46 AM   #58
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everyone seems to be assuming the surrogate took them back to be selfish

who's to say she isn't just protecting the children because something doesn't sit right with her about the couple? (which surely any mother would do)


 

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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 07:10 AM   #59
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everyone seems to be assuming the surrogate took them back to be selfish

who's to say she isn't just protecting the children because something doesn't sit right with her about the couple? (which surely any mother would do)
but she's not their mother - the couple for whom she was being a surrogate for are the 'real' parents. i have PND - does that mean there is cause for concern for my child?

you cannot 'decide' all of a sudden to back out of an agreement which means that much to people in this kind of situation. she already has four children i feel it is a bit selfish what she's done. she shouldnt have the right to keep these children as diffficult as it must have been for her she should have 'had' to deal with it. in my eyes they were never hers to begin with.

that poor couple are now parents with no children, its heartbreaking..


 
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Old Jun 16th, 2010, 07:15 AM   #60
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I dont think it was a selfish thing to do. If the mother just wanted another baby, she could have just had another baby by someone else, so it doesnt boil down to "she just wanted a boy."
It will have cost her a lot of money to go to court and get those babies back, let alone the grief she will be getting off people for doing so, so she didnt do it on a whim, obviously she knows something (that we dont) about the adoptive parents that made her concerned about the welfare of the babies.
I also think it was rather foolish of the adoptive parents to do it in a state where, should things go wrong (as they did), they stood no chance of success in court, as surrogacy isnt reconised there. If you are going to spend such a huge amount of money, wouldnt you do all you could to minimize the risks?
Also, as somebody else said, the pregnancy could very well have ended in miscarriage, and they would still be in the same position now.


 
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