Are you kids contagious? Did you watch? - Page 2

Laura2919 · Apr 15th, 2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YoshiPikachu

I have had all of my vaccinates and so will my children. I think it is wrong to not knowing how sick the child could get. And the whooping cough thing, parents need to make sure that they and those you are around the child have had the vaccinate because you could give it to the child without even know it. I heard that babies don't get the whooping cough vaccinates until they are 6 weeks old. But I am guessing that it depends on where you live.

I'm not sure when they get it but she was saying that if most people vaccinated her daughter most probably wouldn't have caught it.

BigZai · Apr 16th, 2012, 20:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Laura2919

Only 59% of parents said it was irresponsible to not vaccinate your children.

My girls had the MMR with no side effects and it wasn't even an option to not vaccinate.

There was a mum on there that lost her daughter to whooping cough..

so sad.

This is not a post for an argument or a massive discussion!!

if you look at the chances of side effect of vaccines and the chance of your LO dying if they got sick most would pic the vaccine. I am surprised it was only 59%
chance of bad reaction to the meningococcal vac was 1 in a million
percent of ppl that died when they got sick from meningococcal was about 15 percent chance of loosing a limb was higher ithink 19% but i dont remember

BigZai · Apr 16th, 2012, 20:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Laura2919

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Originally Posted by YoshiPikachu

I have had all of my vaccinates and so will my children. I think it is wrong to not knowing how sick the child could get. And the whooping cough thing, parents need to make sure that they and those you are around the child have had the vaccinate because you could give it to the child without even know it. I heard that babies don't get the whooping cough vaccinates until they are 6 weeks old. But I am guessing that it depends on where you live.

I'm not sure when they get it but she was saying that if most people vaccinated her daughter most probably wouldn't have caught it.

herd immunity ONLY work when the whole herd gets the vaccine

BigZai · Apr 16th, 2012, 20:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eternal

I think its selfish and crazy not to! Most people I have heard who dont vaccinate say "its just measles" and some actually want their children to contract it to give them "100% natural immunity", I just cant help but shake my head, thats if they dont die or are left with permanent disabilities. I am all for natural parenting and each to their own, but when someones else decision affect the health of the nation then it is my business to question their motives, which in most cases seem to be a bunch of conspiracey theories focus around the idea they are only given to kill children and make mega bucks for the vaccine companies.

I am not judging all non-vaxers with the same brush and would welcome and sensible argument and realiable research to support their views. Also respect to those who cant vaccinate due to medical reasons, but them I am sure in that case that those people really want everyone else to vaccinate, if a child cant receive one due to medical reasons then they really relay on heard immunity.

Anyway, didnt see the programme would love to though, what channel was it on?

I have never met a non vaxer (excluding medical reasons)that wasn't a lunatic i just dont argue because you cant reason with crazy thats why my LO has never met his cousin thats a few months older and why I dont talk to my sis anymore
also the "big pharma" vaccine profit are only 2% of what they make and thats because vaccines are often given for free or cheaply at a clinic
and they also would make more money if your kid got sick because they would be hospitalized

marley2580 · Apr 17th, 2012, 03:30 AM

Well I selectively vaccinate on a delayed schedule and I don't believe that I am a lunatic lol. I have weighed up all the risks of vaccination against the risks of not vaccinating and taken into account our lifestyle and come to my own conclusions. I didn't watch the programme as I didn't know that it was on, but I doubt it would have changed my mind.

Eternal · Apr 17th, 2012, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by marley2580

Well I selectively vaccinate on a delayed schedule and I don't believe that I am a lunatic lol. I have weighed up all the risks of vaccination against the risks of not vaccinating and taken into account our lifestyle and come to my own conclusions. I didn't watch the programme as I didn't know that it was on, but I doubt it would have changed my mind.

So what have you decided that you child doesnt need?

As for delayed, I get that, I dont, but I do understand the arguement for it.

marley2580 · Apr 17th, 2012, 03:50 AM

My kids get the 5:1 at 6 months and, so far that's it. As they get older I'm continually looking at whether the time is right to give them anything else. I think I'll suggest getting the MMR to them once they get to the teen years. I would advise against them getting the HPV one though.

Eternal · Apr 17th, 2012, 04:16 AM

So they havent had the MMR yet? SO they are open to measles and Rubella? And the havent had the mennigitius one?

So why the 5 in one but not the others? So you think there is less risk for mennigitus or measles? or do you think the risk of those vaccines out weigh their chances of getting those?

marley2580 · Apr 17th, 2012, 04:34 AM

Well I home educate, so they're less likely to come into contact with viruses such as measles etc. whereas tetanus and diphtheria are bacterial diseases. Also with rubella and mumps, I don't think that the risks of them are all that great until puberty (please note I'm not saying there is no risk). If the measles vaccine was available separately I would probably give them that at about 5 or 6, but it's not. I realise I am risking my children catching these diseases, but I still feel that the risks of the vaccines are that little bit greater.

It's one of those tough parenting decisions that we all have to make, you and I can look at the same facts and come to different conclusions based on many different factors. All we can do is what's right for our families.

Eternal · Apr 17th, 2012, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by marley2580

Well I home educate, so they're less likely to come into contact with viruses such as measles etc. whereas tetanus and diphtheria are bacterial diseases. Also with rubella and mumps, I don't think that the risks of them are all that great until puberty (please note I'm not saying there is no risk). If the measles vaccine was available separately I would probably give them that at about 5 or 6, but it's not. I realise I am risking my children catching these diseases, but I still feel that the risks of the vaccines are that little bit greater.

It's one of those tough parenting decisions that we all have to make, you and I can look at the same facts and come to different conclusions based on many different factors. All we can do is what's right for our families.

Your right, and experience plays a part in that, I training and worked as a nurse, and colleagues and I have seen the devastation these preventable diseases cause, esp meningitis, measles, and rubella.

I have done risk analysis too, in this instinct the risk of the unknown (if any) reactions, problems or future complications are far out weighed by the known deadly consequences, if not deadly permanent disability or at very least a very ill child which could have been prevented.

I understand your children are in less contact due to home schooling, home schooling is something that appeals to me but I don't think I have the level of patience required, anyway, that does not mean they stay at home 24/7 and dont ineract with the public.

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marley2580 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Forfar Posts: 6,505	Well I selectively vaccinate on a delayed schedule and I don't believe that I am a lunatic lol. I have weighed up all the risks of vaccination against the risks of not vaccinating and taken into account our lifestyle and come to my own conclusions. I didn't watch the programme as I didn't know that it was on, but I doubt it would have changed my mind.
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marley2580 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Forfar Posts: 6,505	My kids get the 5:1 at 6 months and, so far that's it. As they get older I'm continually looking at whether the time is right to give them anything else. I think I'll suggest getting the MMR to them once they get to the teen years. I would advise against them getting the HPV one though.
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Eternal Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Swansea, Wales Posts: 8,004	So they havent had the MMR yet? SO they are open to measles and Rubella? And the havent had the mennigitius one? So why the 5 in one but not the others? So you think there is less risk for mennigitus or measles? or do you think the risk of those vaccines out weigh their chances of getting those?

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marley2580 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Forfar Posts: 6,505	Well I home educate, so they're less likely to come into contact with viruses such as measles etc. whereas tetanus and diphtheria are bacterial diseases. Also with rubella and mumps, I don't think that the risks of them are all that great until puberty (please note I'm not saying there is no risk). If the measles vaccine was available separately I would probably give them that at about 5 or 6, but it's not. I realise I am risking my children catching these diseases, but I still feel that the risks of the vaccines are that little bit greater. It's one of those tough parenting decisions that we all have to make, you and I can look at the same facts and come to different conclusions based on many different factors. All we can do is what's right for our families.
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