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Old Feb 21st, 2018, 04:42 AM   11
Natsku
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Maria is at school from 9-13 and they are outside playing for the first 20/30 minutes, then out again part way through the day for the same amount, then lunch which is just eating time, and then outside for the last 20/30 minutes of the day. There's some inside playtime too. So between an hour and an hour and a half out of the four hour day.



 
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Old Feb 21st, 2018, 06:26 AM   12
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school is 9-3 here. 15 minute playtime at 10.15, lunch is at 12.30 and lasts 45 minutes (to eat and play)
I'm pretty sure the little ones get outside in the afternoon too. They all get PE twice a week (45 mins/an hour) and they definitely don't sit at a desk all the time, even my daughter who is in p3 doesn't just sit all day. They do lots of practical things



 
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Old Feb 21st, 2018, 10:37 AM   13
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Maria is at school from 9-13 and they are outside playing for the first 20/30 minutes, then out again part way through the day for the same amount, then lunch which is just eating time, and then outside for the last 20/30 minutes of the day. There's some inside playtime too. So between an hour and an hour and a half out of the four hour day.
Yeah... I've heard good things about Finland. Just did a quick google search to make sure I was thinking of the right country. Formal education starts at 7 and lots of free time, right? And also highly successful in educating children, right? Here, things are being pushed sooner and sooner. Formal education starts at 5 and we've moved from a half day play based model to a whole day formal instruction model with pressure to push more sooner and clearly cutting back recess too much. I don't think it will be long before an academic based Pre-K is standard. There is a free preschool system already available here for low income families and it's more academic and structured than what kindergarten (5-6 year olds) used to be. I have no issue with teaching academics to young kids, but it should be child-driven. Provide them with the tools and give them plenty of exposure and encouragement, but then let them take it from there! They will become interested and learn as they are ready. I also wonder if the local school will let me do a partial enrollment... homeschool half day and public school half day. That way the lunch and recess thing isn't an issue, but she still gets the benefit of the social aspect and learning away from home aspect of public schooling without some of the negatives of having an overly structured whole day with no free time. Honestly, she's doing well academically, and could use more social time with her peers. She's the oldest in her preschool and as a result it's been a bit of a dud year for her.



 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2018, 03:15 AM   14
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Maria is at school from 9-13 and they are outside playing for the first 20/30 minutes, then out again part way through the day for the same amount, then lunch which is just eating time, and then outside for the last 20/30 minutes of the day. There's some inside playtime too. So between an hour and an hour and a half out of the four hour day.
Yeah... I've heard good things about Finland. Just did a quick google search to make sure I was thinking of the right country. Formal education starts at 7 and lots of free time, right? And also highly successful in educating children, right? Here, things are being pushed sooner and sooner. Formal education starts at 5 and we've moved from a half day play based model to a whole day formal instruction model with pressure to push more sooner and clearly cutting back recess too much. I don't think it will be long before an academic based Pre-K is standard. There is a free preschool system already available here for low income families and it's more academic and structured than what kindergarten (5-6 year olds) used to be. I have no issue with teaching academics to young kids, but it should be child-driven. Provide them with the tools and give them plenty of exposure and encouragement, but then let them take it from there! They will become interested and learn as they are ready. I also wonder if the local school will let me do a partial enrollment... homeschool half day and public school half day. That way the lunch and recess thing isn't an issue, but she still gets the benefit of the social aspect and learning away from home aspect of public schooling without some of the negatives of having an overly structured whole day with no free time. Honestly, she's doing well academically, and could use more social time with her peers. She's the oldest in her preschool and as a result it's been a bit of a dud year for her.
First grade starts the year they turn 7 but kindergarten recently became compulsory and that starts the year they turn 6 so some are still 5 when they start school but it's a very slow laid back start, highly focused on play. Can definitely understand your doubts about kindergarten if it's very academic and full-on - I would not like that at all! Children this age learn so much just through playing, there's no need for academics yet. But the social aspect is very important, and making friends from the start if they're going to be in the same school together for years - bit more difficult if you start a year later when friendship groups have already been established.



 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2018, 11:32 AM   15
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Haha, speaking of academics, my 3 year old recently picked up the math book that my oldest has been interested in. So even my 3 year old is getting "formal instruction" in math . OK, maybe not quite. We read the background info and the easiest story problem and then I do it on my fingers and he counts my fingers. He's starting to be able to actually understand how to count fingers instead of just pointing randomly.



 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2018, 23:13 PM   16
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Ah that's great!



 
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Old Feb 23rd, 2018, 04:29 AM   17
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My DD's school is 8.55am to 3pm. She gets 15 minutes break time outside and one hour for lunch which is partly eating and partly playing outside. They do PE twice a week too.



 
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Old Feb 27th, 2018, 21:36 PM   18
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I don't know how long their breaks are, but they start school about 8:45, finish at 3 and have 3 scheduled breaks. Fruit break, lunch and brain break.

New entrants, of which Sophie is, have a classroom more like a preschool which is full of toys. There are no desks until the third year of school, just some round tables. Both of the kids have couches in their classrooms and Thomas's room has a smaller room off the side for kids to go and have some personal space as needed. It has a window seat and books and stuff.

The new entrants also get to go outside and play near the end of the day.

They also go swimming every day in summer, go to the library once a week etc.



 
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Old Feb 27th, 2018, 22:27 PM   19
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So I met with the kindergarten teacher and principal today. They actually get a 15 minute recess in the morning and lunch and second recess combined is 40 minutes. However, the kinder teacher does do time in the gym or a movement break in class around 9:00. They have PE every day as well in the afternoon. And instruction is broken up into developmentally appropriate chunks with movement activities mixed in. We will give it a try.



 
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Old Feb 28th, 2018, 01:41 AM   20
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Sounds good, definitely worth a try and see how she gets on.

Love that they go swimming every day in the summer Minties! Wish they could do that at Maria's school, they just do one week of swimming.



 
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