Torn badly with 1st (3rd degree) will it happen again???

scottiejunior · Dec 20th, 2012, 06:32 AM

I always thought I might have more children but after a very traumatic experience with 1st I'm scared in case it's the same again.

I was induced at 42 weeks (horrible) was in labour 2 days, failed epidural, couldn't move from bed even tho Epi didn't work. Was cut to help delivery as babies heartbeat was dropping when I pushed. They decided they needed her out sooner rather than later, I had suction cup (failed) then forceps (torn when using forceps).

Went to theatre to be put back together and lost 900mls of blood.
The night after was the worst as all drugs were wearing off and was in AGONY!!!

Couldn't look after my baby (luckly she slept).

Please can any women who this has happened to (or similar) let me know what happened next time?

starlight1 · Dec 20th, 2012, 06:52 AM

I was really worried with first she came that fast I had a 3rd degree tear which healed well. I have just had 2nd baby with 15 month between they recommended I had a episiotamy as this will reduce the risk of tearing and causing problems later on in life like in continuance. And I didn't have any other tears obv just the cut. X

NaturalMomma · Dec 20th, 2012, 13:46 PM

I had a good tear with ds1 and did not tear at all with ds2. Not pushing with all your might can help, putting a warm wash cloth or warm oil on the perineum during pushing can help loosen it up, etc.

Spunky · Dec 20th, 2012, 16:12 PM

Stalking this. Similar story. I was induced 11 days overdue, 2 days to labor, I had a 3rd deg tear with my son and vacuum assistance. Hoping this one will be a much easier recovery!

anita665 · Dec 21st, 2012, 09:08 AM

I think your chances of tearing in second and subesquent pregnancies goes down unless they stitched you up too tight or your baby is much larger.

I tore badly with my first but had nothing with my second baby who was the same size.

ayh78 · Dec 24th, 2012, 03:49 AM

I personally didn't have a 3rd deg tear, but I know people who did. One lady was given an appointment to talk through her options with #2 and was told that if she tore again there was a chance she'd be incontinent. They gave her the option of trying for another natural or choosing a caesarean. In the end she chose the caesarean.

**angel** · Dec 24th, 2012, 03:58 AM

I had a 3rd degree tear with my first in a water birth. Had to have surgery etc. On 2nd 16 months later I only suffered a 2nd degree also in water birth. As others said an episiotomy is very common in preventing tears xxx

Eleanor ace · Dec 26th, 2012, 10:18 AM

I had a 3rd/4th degree tear with DS and am expecting LO number 2. I was given the option of a c-section or the chance to attempt a vaginal delivery. I chose vaginal as I had a great labour/birth with DS and am looking forward to doing it again, but I am prepared with ideas to hopefully reduce my risk of tearing again. I had tests to check my muscle and bowel function which came back normal. I will hopefully not labour on my back (I was made to with DS as he needed monitoring and the monitor they used only got a reading when I was on my back), I will hopefully use the pool and I will try to be as mobile as possible (rocking/squats).
Have you spoken with your consultant about your options and how you've healed? Hopefully that would put your mind at ease, and you can discuss options for future deliveries.

teal · Dec 27th, 2012, 01:29 AM

Just regarding the episiotomies to prevent tearing.... I had an episiotomy but I also had a completely seperate tear into my bowel which took three hours in theatre being stitched up. The consultant did say it was unusual to have a seperate tear rather than the episiotomy to continue tearing but it happens.

At my 8 week check with a consultant I would be able to elect for a section if I wanted. He said even though they repaired the damage that time if I tore again I might not be so lucky. Personally I'd not attempt a vaginal birth again. I had to have physiotherapy and it took well over a year before I felt ok-ish again.

Jem88 · Dec 27th, 2012, 09:37 AM

Not quite the same as i only had a little tear with my first but didn't tear at all with my 2nd. xx

Dec 20th, 2012, 06:32 AM	#1
scottiejunior Mum (Mom) Active BnB Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: south yorkshire Posts: 709	Torn badly with 1st (3rd degree) will it happen again??? I always thought I might have more children but after a very traumatic experience with 1st I'm scared in case it's the same again. I was induced at 42 weeks (horrible) was in labour 2 days, failed epidural, couldn't move from bed even tho Epi didn't work. Was cut to help delivery as babies heartbeat was dropping when I pushed. They decided they needed her out sooner rather than later, I had suction cup (failed) then forceps (torn when using forceps). Went to theatre to be put back together and lost 900mls of blood. The night after was the worst as all drugs were wearing off and was in AGONY!!! Couldn't look after my baby (luckly she slept). Please can any women who this has happened to (or similar) let me know what happened next time?

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Dec 20th, 2012, 13:46 PM	#3
NaturalMomma Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,592	I had a good tear with ds1 and did not tear at all with ds2. Not pushing with all your might can help, putting a warm wash cloth or warm oil on the perineum during pushing can help loosen it up, etc.

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Dec 20th, 2012, 16:12 PM	#4
Spunky Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 4,022	Stalking this. Similar story. I was induced 11 days overdue, 2 days to labor, I had a 3rd deg tear with my son and vacuum assistance. Hoping this one will be a much easier recovery!

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Dec 21st, 2012, 09:08 AM	#5
anita665 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 4,044	I think your chances of tearing in second and subesquent pregnancies goes down unless they stitched you up too tight or your baby is much larger. I tore badly with my first but had nothing with my second baby who was the same size.

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Dec 24th, 2012, 03:49 AM	#6
ayh78 Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,298	I personally didn't have a 3rd deg tear, but I know people who did. One lady was given an appointment to talk through her options with #2 and was told that if she tore again there was a chance she'd be incontinent. They gave her the option of trying for another natural or choosing a caesarean. In the end she chose the caesarean.

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Dec 20th, 2012, 06:52 AM	#2
starlight1 Pregnant (Expecting) Active BnB Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 817	I was really worried with first she came that fast I had a 3rd degree tear which healed well. I have just had 2nd baby with 15 month between they recommended I had a episiotamy as this will reduce the risk of tearing and causing problems later on in life like in continuance. And I didn't have any other tears obv just the cut. X

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Dec 24th, 2012, 03:58 AM	#7
angel Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,838	I had a 3rd degree tear with my first in a water birth. Had to have surgery etc. On 2nd 16 months later I only suffered a 2nd degree also in water birth. As others said an episiotomy is very common in preventing tears xxx

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Dec 26th, 2012, 10:18 AM	#8
Eleanor ace Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 5,400	I had a 3rd/4th degree tear with DS and am expecting LO number 2. I was given the option of a c-section or the chance to attempt a vaginal delivery. I chose vaginal as I had a great labour/birth with DS and am looking forward to doing it again, but I am prepared with ideas to hopefully reduce my risk of tearing again. I had tests to check my muscle and bowel function which came back normal. I will hopefully not labour on my back (I was made to with DS as he needed monitoring and the monitor they used only got a reading when I was on my back), I will hopefully use the pool and I will try to be as mobile as possible (rocking/squats). Have you spoken with your consultant about your options and how you've healed? Hopefully that would put your mind at ease, and you can discuss options for future deliveries.

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Dec 27th, 2012, 01:29 AM	#9
teal Mum (Mom) BnB Elite Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 12,868	Just regarding the episiotomies to prevent tearing.... I had an episiotomy but I also had a completely seperate tear into my bowel which took three hours in theatre being stitched up. The consultant did say it was unusual to have a seperate tear rather than the episiotomy to continue tearing but it happens. At my 8 week check with a consultant I would be able to elect for a section if I wanted. He said even though they repaired the damage that time if I tore again I might not be so lucky. Personally I'd not attempt a vaginal birth again. I had to have physiotherapy and it took well over a year before I felt ok-ish again.

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Dec 27th, 2012, 09:37 AM	#10
Jem88 Mum (Mom) Active BnB Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cumbria, UK Posts: 3,363	Not quite the same as i only had a little tear with my first but didn't tear at all with my 2nd. xx

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