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Old Oct 9th, 2015, 15:11 PM   1
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Diaper stink. I can't seem to shake it.


Okay, so I used to always use natural fiber flats after a microfiber debacle, and they worked great. But after DD was born we got tired of folding flats, so I sold a lot stuff and bought used AI2 diapers, and they have been great. My washing system seemed to work fine and all has been well for months. They I noticed stink, they kind when they come out of the wash smelling great but stink when they get wet? So I switched from the soap I was using to Tide powder (gets such great reviews, right?). I broke down everything and spent a day strip washing. I washed the bleachable items with bleach, the bamboo inserts without, and then the covers separately. I washed hot, with a soak, full amount of tide, rinsed cold, warm, cold then dried.

They smelled like absolutely nothing, not tide (it has a pretty powerful scent), not pee, not barnyard, nothing. Even after being peed on! I fixed them!

After this, I stuck with the tide, and washed the SAME WAY, just didn't split up into three separate loads. I think I got one wash out of them and then they started to smell again, so I started using about half the detergent, thinking it was building up. Nope, still smell.

What gives? What am I not doing? Hot water, check. Good detergent, check. Tried both full amount of detergent and half amount, check. Adequate rinse, check. Warm rinse, check.

What freaking gives? can I get some help?



 
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Old Oct 9th, 2015, 15:32 PM   2
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I think I will try a new method?

Old Method:
1. Cold Rinse no spin
2. Heavy Duty wash, Hot water, Soak, full detergent (tried with half detergent as well), cold rinse, no spin
3. Speed wash warm, cold rinse, high spin

1. Cold rinse no spin
2. ADD Warm speed wash, full detergent, cold rinse, no spin
3. Heavy Duty wash, light detergent, cold rinse, no spin (Remove Soak)
4. Speed wash warm, cold rinse, high spin

It will add a step and about 20 minutes, but I used to do this when DD was first born and I think switching to the one hot wash with soak instead of the warm wash then hot wash. I JUST folded all the diapers though, I am seriously considering saying screw it all and putting them BACK in the washer. I am so frustrated.



 
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Old Oct 9th, 2015, 18:57 PM   3
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Hi I'm stalking here and waiting for someone with an idea. I'll be CD my first borne and I really want it to work out. I'll be using Tide too, but some say use only a heaping teaspoon. Idk



 
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Old Oct 10th, 2015, 10:28 AM   4
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Anyone?



 
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Old Oct 10th, 2015, 14:54 PM   5
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Is it an ammonia smell? I've read that citric acid or vinegar can neutralize ammonia, and that bleach won't work on ammonia since it's also basic. Can't vouch for it because I haven't had that problem (yet), but it seems like an easy thing to try!



 
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Old Oct 10th, 2015, 14:56 PM   6
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And as a plus, acid will dissolve limescale buildup if you happen to have hard water. I use citric acid as a natural fabric softener and it works great.



 
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Old Oct 10th, 2015, 15:18 PM   7
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No, barnyard smell. Icky. No ammonia smell.

I will try vinegar on the inserts if the new wash routine doesn't work. We don't have hard water so that is not a concern.



 
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Old Oct 10th, 2015, 19:29 PM   8
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I rinse every nappy individually in a bucket as soon as I get a fresh one on Sophie. Warm rinse, squeeze water out, warm rinse, then hot soak about an hour, rinse ans put in a dry bucket. I use cotton prefolds and bamboo inserts. I always get a smell if I don't rinse each nappy out by itself.

The main wash is a cold one and I hang all nappies outside on the line.



 
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Old Oct 13th, 2015, 08:43 AM   9
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When I was CD my first I used to put all the nappies in the washer together and do 1 cold rinse to stop any smells/stains being sealed in, then I'd do a normal wash with only about a tablespoon of washing powder, with no built in conditioner and then finally another cold rinse to get rid of any excess detergent and that seemed to work for me!

This time around I'll be using an Eco egg, which *should* eliminate the need for my rinse cycles as no detergents will be used. Fingers crossed you find a solution!



 
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Old Nov 14th, 2015, 23:08 PM   10
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I can help you! I have been successfully cloth diapering for 2 years; never had ammonia, never had barnyard, but I KNOW what will work to rid you of these issues. I even use an HE washer; actually 2 different kinds and no problems. I should say, though, that I only use pocket diapers, and only ever flour sack towels and microfiber inserts. As you may know, MF is "notorious" for having issues with retaining smells and not cleaning as effectively, but I've done more than fine.

Before I start, can I just say that I'm glad I don't have to side step the whole detergent preference malarkey?! hahaha, seriously. Thank god.

Detergent build up is a myth. The science behind detergent is that it is made to break down. What is likely building up on your diapers are hard water minerals which then trap all of the urine and fecal matter from improper washing techniques, creating the "barnyard smell."

So, I have read the basics, but there are a few very important questions.

1. What kind of washer? Standard or High Efficiency?

2. Do you have hard water? Most of the world has hard water. I have hard bordering on very hard water here in Western Canada.

3. How many diapers are you washing, and exactly how much detergent are you using?

My system is this. I wash about 20-25 diapers with 2-3 inserts each, in 2 heavy loads.

First load: 1/2 of "line 1" of scooper of tide original HE powder. I use warm/cold water, on heavy wash, with a prewash, extra rinse, and extra spin. This measure of detergent is basically used as a booster because it is so little an amount. You can skip it. It's a preference for me personally.

Second load: use to 'line 3' of tide original HE and 30ml (2 tbsp) Calgon water softener. Hot, heavy wash. Extra rinse and extra spin. Sometimes I add the prewash in here; sometimes not; no real difference...


It's important to know that barnyard essentially means that your diapers are not getting cleaned properly. It seems like this issue built up over time (which is common) and when you used the bleach and tried to switch around your washing techniques, it helped a bit; I'm sure some of the build-up was removed as a result of this. But not all.

The thing about bleach, is that you need to do a soak in cold, following a wash in hot. The hot breaks down the bleach. Simply washing in bleach does not strip your diapers nor disinfect them. I have stripped and soaked my diapers 1 time! in 2 years. Most people use a bathtub to soak. It's actually very easy.

If you have hard water, I would suggest an RLR strip first; followed by a bleach soak second. I can help you with the proper process to do both (as it is important to add the right amount; not too much and not too little bleach).

Then I can help you tweak your wash routine (asking for a pic of all options on your washer) to help as best as I can.



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