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Old Jan 21st, 2012, 18:12 PM   21
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Its such a shame this thread is not active! im very interested as a naturally worried mum in the views of the mums who are not vaccinating but for some reason they have not bothered coming back to the thread so i am none the wiser if any mums are not vaccinating against the MMR,i would like to here your reasons.



 
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Its such a shame this thread is not active! im very interested as a naturally worried mum in the views of the mums who are not vaccinating but for some reason they have not bothered coming back to the thread so i am none the wiser if any mums are not vaccinating against the MMR,i would like to here your reasons.
I think a lot of us, or at least I Have, learned not to really put my reasons out in a public forum. It always ends up attacked and I got tired of defending myself. I also don't want to sway anyone one way or the other, I really think everyone should spend time researching both sides and make the choice that is best for their own family...just because we don't vaccinate doesn't mean I think no one should, I fully acknowledge it's a risk we are taking just like vaccinating is and everyone has to decide which risk they are willing to take. We don't vaccinate at all, so this goes for the MMR as well as everything else, we looked at the risk of the getting the disease, the risks that come with having the disease, then the risks of the vaccines, ingredients in the vaccines, benefits of the vaccines and benefits of having the diseases naturally (which yes there are benefits to actually having the diseases). Then made our decision, turned out we didn't feel the benefits of any of the vaccines outweighed the risks when looking at all of that information, but someone could have read the exact same stuff we did and made the opposite decision. There are some vaccines we'd reconsider if there was a higher risk of getting the disease such as polio.



 
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I've always vaccinated on time, but to each their own



 
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Its such a shame this thread is not active! im very interested as a naturally worried mum in the views of the mums who are not vaccinating but for some reason they have not bothered coming back to the thread so i am none the wiser if any mums are not vaccinating against the MMR,i would like to here your reasons.
I think a lot of us, or at least I Have, learned not to really put my reasons out in a public forum. It always ends up attacked and I got tired of defending myself. I also don't want to sway anyone one way or the other, I really think everyone should spend time researching both sides and make the choice that is best for their own family...just because we don't vaccinate doesn't mean I think no one should, I fully acknowledge it's a risk we are taking just like vaccinating is and everyone has to decide which risk they are willing to take. We don't vaccinate at all, so this goes for the MMR as well as everything else, we looked at the risk of the getting the disease, the risks that come with having the disease, then the risks of the vaccines, ingredients in the vaccines, benefits of the vaccines and benefits of having the diseases naturally (which yes there are benefits to actually having the diseases). Then made our decision, turned out we didn't feel the benefits of any of the vaccines outweighed the risks when looking at all of that information, but someone could have read the exact same stuff we did and made the opposite decision. There are some vaccines we'd reconsider if there was a higher risk of getting the disease such as polio.
Yes thanks for your reply and i can see how you would think that on baby club but this section is a lot more mellow. I do sometimes think if you going to voice an opinion its good to follow through unless someone is being rude of course,which is not the case here as otherwise it is a bit frustrating iukwim. (not directed at you)When you say research,i do find that confusing as it seems EVERY one has an agenda who to trust. vaccinating does work,dont you think? what would happen if every one stopped? do you think it would be better if we all did? or are you relying on protection of the masses? (please don't think im attacking,im just generally interested) Lastly what would be the risks in your opinion by vaccinating? Once again thank you for getting back to me as i know it is a fiery subject x



 
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I have delayed his vaccinations until six months and he (currently) gets one every six months (due another actually) so hes 18 months and has only had 2 so far, i hope to get him another one soon but we are just about to move so its awkward.

My reasons? well, there are little to NO cases of ANY of the disease vaccinated against in my area, i believe my breastmilk offers him good immunity and i dont think his little body should be made to deal with too much 'incase' it can take it

MMR, i wouldnt give, i just dont see WHY giving three major vaccinations in one is sensible, i would rather spread them out.

for me its not a question of WHY NOT inject my child with toxins, preservatives and metals, its a question of WHY.



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Its such a shame this thread is not active! im very interested as a naturally worried mum in the views of the mums who are not vaccinating but for some reason they have not bothered coming back to the thread so i am none the wiser if any mums are not vaccinating against the MMR,i would like to here your reasons.
I think a lot of us, or at least I Have, learned not to really put my reasons out in a public forum. It always ends up attacked and I got tired of defending myself. I also don't want to sway anyone one way or the other, I really think everyone should spend time researching both sides and make the choice that is best for their own family...just because we don't vaccinate doesn't mean I think no one should, I fully acknowledge it's a risk we are taking just like vaccinating is and everyone has to decide which risk they are willing to take. We don't vaccinate at all, so this goes for the MMR as well as everything else, we looked at the risk of the getting the disease, the risks that come with having the disease, then the risks of the vaccines, ingredients in the vaccines, benefits of the vaccines and benefits of having the diseases naturally (which yes there are benefits to actually having the diseases). Then made our decision, turned out we didn't feel the benefits of any of the vaccines outweighed the risks when looking at all of that information, but someone could have read the exact same stuff we did and made the opposite decision. There are some vaccines we'd reconsider if there was a higher risk of getting the disease such as polio.
Yes thanks for your reply and i can see how you would think that on baby club but this section is a lot more mellow. I do sometimes think if you going to voice an opinion its good to follow through unless someone is being rude of course,which is not the case here as otherwise it is a bit frustrating iukwim. (not directed at you)When you say research,i do find that confusing as it seems EVERY one has an agenda who to trust. vaccinating does work,dont you think? what would happen if every one stopped? do you think it would be better if we all did? or are you relying on protection of the masses? (please don't think im attacking,im just generally interested) Lastly what would be the risks in your opinion by vaccinating? Once again thank you for getting back to me as i know it is a fiery subject x

I agree it's hard to find information that isn't bias to one side or the other. But you really have to pick and choose, read as much as you can, find reputable sources, etc. I do agree that vaccines have their place, and no I don't think everyone should just stop vaccinating. I just think everyone should do the research, and I think the information should be out there even more, as parents we should know the TRUE risks and benefits to both sides of this debate so we can make the most informed choice possible. We shouldn't have to spend months trying to find enough information to make an informed decision...which is what I did. I'm not relying on the fact that most are vaccinated...I'm completely fine with my kids getting some diseases. If they had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox (which we vaccinate for in the US, don't think they do in the UK) and some other similar ones...I think the risks from the diseases are relatively low in my very healthy kids and the benefits of natural immunity are worth it. Now, of course I don't WANT them to be sick, but it's a risk I'm willing to take. But then if something like Polio came back to our area, which there hasn't been a case of polio in the US in years and years, I would reconsider getting them vaccinated...actually not just reconsider, they would get the vaccine. Like I said earlier, I do believe vaccines have their place but I do NOT believe they are the only reason these diseases are less prevalent these days. I think in large part it's due to sanitation, nutrition and our medical advancements in actually treating these diseases so they don't spread like crazy. There actually used to be, I'm sure they are still there somewhere, charts on the CDC's website showing the decline in these diseases BEFORE the introduction of vaccines. I have the link saved...but it's on my computer that crapped out so I can't get to it, if you are interested maybe I can find it later though.



 
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Its such a shame this thread is not active! im very interested as a naturally worried mum in the views of the mums who are not vaccinating but for some reason they have not bothered coming back to the thread so i am none the wiser if any mums are not vaccinating against the MMR,i would like to here your reasons.
I think a lot of us, or at least I Have, learned not to really put my reasons out in a public forum. It always ends up attacked and I got tired of defending myself. I also don't want to sway anyone one way or the other, I really think everyone should spend time researching both sides and make the choice that is best for their own family...just because we don't vaccinate doesn't mean I think no one should, I fully acknowledge it's a risk we are taking just like vaccinating is and everyone has to decide which risk they are willing to take. We don't vaccinate at all, so this goes for the MMR as well as everything else, we looked at the risk of the getting the disease, the risks that come with having the disease, then the risks of the vaccines, ingredients in the vaccines, benefits of the vaccines and benefits of having the diseases naturally (which yes there are benefits to actually having the diseases). Then made our decision, turned out we didn't feel the benefits of any of the vaccines outweighed the risks when looking at all of that information, but someone could have read the exact same stuff we did and made the opposite decision. There are some vaccines we'd reconsider if there was a higher risk of getting the disease such as polio.
Yes thanks for your reply and i can see how you would think that on baby club but this section is a lot more mellow. I do sometimes think if you going to voice an opinion its good to follow through unless someone is being rude of course,which is not the case here as otherwise it is a bit frustrating iukwim. (not directed at you)When you say research,i do find that confusing as it seems EVERY one has an agenda who to trust. vaccinating does work,dont you think? what would happen if every one stopped? do you think it would be better if we all did? or are you relying on protection of the masses? (please don't think im attacking,im just generally interested) Lastly what would be the risks in your opinion by vaccinating? Once again thank you for getting back to me as i know it is a fiery subject x

I agree it's hard to find information that isn't bias to one side or the other. But you really have to pick and choose, read as much as you can, find reputable sources, etc. I do agree that vaccines have their place, and no I don't think everyone should just stop vaccinating. I just think everyone should do the research, and I think the information should be out there even more, as parents we should know the TRUE risks and benefits to both sides of this debate so we can make the most informed choice possible. We shouldn't have to spend months trying to find enough information to make an informed decision...which is what I did. I'm not relying on the fact that most are vaccinated...I'm completely fine with my kids getting some diseases. If they had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox (which we vaccinate for in the US, don't think they do in the UK) and some other similar ones...I think the risks from the diseases are relatively low in my very healthy kids and the benefits of natural immunity are worth it. Now, of course I don't WANT them to be sick, but it's a risk I'm willing to take. But then if something like Polio came back to our area, which there hasn't been a case of polio in the US in years and years, I would reconsider getting them vaccinated...actually not just reconsider, they would get the vaccine. Like I said earlier, I do believe vaccines have their place but I do NOT believe they are the only reason these diseases are less prevalent these days. I think in large part it's due to sanitation, nutrition and our medical advancements in actually treating these diseases so they don't spread like crazy. There actually used to be, I'm sure they are still there somewhere, charts on the CDC's website showing the decline in these diseases BEFORE the introduction of vaccines. I have the link saved...but it's on my computer that crapped out so I can't get to it, if you are interested maybe I can find it later though.
Thank you if you get the time



 
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Here are the CDC charts; on a different site

http://genesgreenbook.com/content/pr...-didnt-save-us



 
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Old Jan 24th, 2012, 15:38 PM   30
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My 6 month old son isn't vaccinated nor will any of my future children ever be. My husband and I sat down and weighed the pros and cons and we decided that the risks of the vaccines just far outweighed the "benefits" of them and we also could not look at the ingredients and then knowingly inject them into our son. Knowing what I know now, I would never get myself vaccinated so why would I do that to my baby? I agree it's a personal topic though and every family needs to do what's best for them xx



 
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