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Old May 17th, 2009, 16:09 PM   11
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The worst thing anybody can tell you is 'to pull yourself together' I think thats were people who havnt had depression or know alot about it think you can just pick yourself up, My OH would tell me to snap out of it but anybody who has or had depression will now thats it just not possible x
Couldn't have said it better nessa x



 
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Old May 18th, 2009, 08:46 AM   12
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How are we all feeling today x
i Have been out of the house today and suffered a panic attack it took me 10 mins to calm myself down and it made it worse as sam ws with me
i didnt really no how to calm myself down so if anyone suffers from them can you PLEASE tell me how you get over it
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Old May 18th, 2009, 16:36 PM   13
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I wasn't too good this morning to be honest. Think I am going to see how it goes and maybe go back to the drs cos i'm due a review on my medication anyway.

Aww Aly, I used to have panic attacks, not had one for ages though. I used to get away from everyone if I was in public and try and think calming thoughts and breathe into a paper bag. I never had one while I was on my own luckily. Hope you're feeling a little better now. x



 
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Old May 19th, 2009, 03:39 AM   14
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Ohhh if i av another 1 il have to try the paper bag iv had some before and had to call karl out of work
Awww hun i hope your feeling a bit better this morning and if you do go to the docs good luck



 
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I was depressed hun before robyn came along it started wen i was 5 months preg
Iwent to the docs about it and he said you cant get depressed before baby is born


My god, where did that moron get his medical training?! Antenatal depression is very common but shockingly under treated. I have a history of depression and had both ante and post natal depression. With me it always triggered by life events, I have trouble coping when things go "wrong".

I've had Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) for it, which has always really worked for me, but talking therapy (counselling) is really useful too.

I know that for some people, medication is the best option, but I think doctors can be too quick to dish out pills. Talking things through and realising that your feelings are not uncommon can be a powerful recovery tool.

I had a few moments since Jack was born where I thought about ending my life. They were very dark times that made me feel deeply ashamed. But I am recovering now and realise where those thoughts were coming from and that they were a common response.

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Old May 21st, 2009, 12:24 PM   16
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I was depressed hun before robyn came along it started wen i was 5 months preg
Iwent to the docs about it and he said you cant get depressed before baby is born


My god, where did that moron get his medical training?! Antenatal depression is very common but shockingly under treated. I have a history of depression and had both ante and post natal depression. With me it always triggered by life events, I have trouble coping when things go "wrong".

I've had Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) for it, which has always really worked for me, but talking therapy (counselling) is really useful too.

I know that for some people, medication is the best option, but I think doctors can be too quick to dish out pills. Talking things through and realising that your feelings are not uncommon can be a powerful recovery tool.

I had a few moments since Jack was born where I thought about ending my life. They were very dark times that made me feel deeply ashamed. But I am recovering now and realise where those thoughts were coming from and that they were a common response.


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awww am glad your recovering hun
does CBT work for you hun am thinking of asking my doc about it wen i go back n the 28th of this month
wat do you do is it just like talking to some one
can i ask wat they do



 
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Hi. CBT isn't a talking therapy, although you do, by default talk about some aspects of how you're feeling. It's basically a re-training process. You learn to identify certain kinds of thoughts and how those thoughts make you feel. Then you learn to balance those thoughts, see things more objectively and that changes how those thoughts make you feel and consequently how you behave.

It takes a lot of patience and practice but I think it's well worth the effort because the tools then stay with you for life and help you in future, rather than plain talking therapy which you would need to repeat if you were to become depressed again later in life.

It can be used to combat depression, anxiety, addiction, to change bad habits etc.

I'll give you an example. Last summer my paternal grandmother passed away. I had never been close to her, and when she passed away I had some quite negative feelings towards her. I felt that I had never made her proud, that she wasn't interested in my life and favoured my cousins over me. Those thoughts really upset me and filled me with regret about our relationship and that it was too late to put it right.

With the help of my therapist I was able to identify why I thought those things: there were no photos of me in her house, but there were lots of my aunts and cousins. She never seemed to take an interest in what I was doing, didn't ask me about my degree or job when I went to visit her, but would always boast about my cousins' achievements.

Again, with my therapist, I balanced those thoughts: perhaps she didn't have any photos because me nor my parents had never given her any. Neither her or my granddad were keen on photography themselves. Perhaps all the pictures of my cousins were given to her as gifts. Perhaps she only talked about my cousins because they went out of their way to tell her about what they were doing with their lives, whereas I assumed she wouldn't understand the things I was doing so didn't try to explain.

I was able to take responsibility for the flaws in our relationship, but in a rational way that I could handle, rather than blaming myself and becoming emotional about it. I realised that my dad wasn't close to her and had his own issues with her, so that had probably influenced my relationship with her too.

While much of this would be explored in talking therapy, in CBT you use worksheets and keep records of your trigger thoughts and how they make you feel. It's about learning to identify them and deal with them before they spiral into depressive feelings and behaviour.

Anyway, sorry for the essay! Hope this helps.



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Great thread.

Ive battled depression for over 7 years now. It briefly went around the time i concieved Jack, and then came back when i was about 6-7months pregnant. I did have a large element of PND at the time, though it isnt really PND now, just depression and anxiety.
The past 2 yrs have been really tough for us. We went bankrupt and lost our house, i had to give up my nursing career due to my ill health, i didnt speak to any of my family for nearly a year. In january, things came to a head, and i was at crisis point. I was close to ending it all many times, and without the support of my fab hubby, i would not be here now. I rang the mental health crisis team, and they have taken over my care since then. And they still come out to my house once a week now. I started CBT on wednesday, after a year of waiting for it, so hoping this will help me. I take antidepressants, and probably will for a long time to come.

I can understand and empathsise with all of you girls, and if ever anyone needs a shoulder to cry on, im always around, anyone is welcome to PM me.

I hope all of ur recoveries are quick xxxx



 
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Old May 21st, 2009, 15:20 PM   19
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Thanks shifter
im def going to try CBT it sounds better than i thou it would in fact i thou it was were you all sit in a room and talk to ppk about your problems and im not good at that

Fed up sorry i dont no your name if you ever need to get out of the house im always in park gate so we can meet up and just av a chat

That also goes for a anyone else



 
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 06:32 AM   20
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deffinatly agree with nessajane people kept saying that to me n i was like i cant, its so easy 4 people to say that but hthey arnt the ones going through it. i have just got over PD just trying to sort out the little bit of anxiety now, so starting to enjoy my little1 now



 
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