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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 05:58 AM   1
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question about blood tests. can i refuse???


i remember my first lot with DS... not pleasant at all...
anyway, i dont want the downs test because no matter what i will be keeping the baby and i know i dont have HIV or all the other diseases they test for because i didnt have them the first time round and i still have the same OH (who has not been "elsewhere")
so can i say no to these tests?????
its just the blood count and blood group that will be left... so am i well within my rights to say no and feel safe about it??



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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 06:33 AM   2
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Im not sure...to be honest.

I would think that you could say no as its your baby and your body,so ethically, I would say you could.

They cant make you do anything you dont wanna do.



 
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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 08:07 AM   3
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They cant make you have the tests even though they would highly reccomend them. If you dont want the downs screening then really its only your booking in bloods which is literally just one needle one time. Id say for one lil jag to make sure everythings fine is no big hardship but to answer your question no they cant make you. Although they will do there best to talk you into it

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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 08:14 AM   4
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Hi Hun,

I had the same discussion with my midwife last week as my son is only 14 months and im with the same partner but she said you still need to have them done even the rubella how stupid if i had immunity before i will still have it lol!! I had my scan today and refused the nuchal and blood test cus i wouldnt risk further test for the small chance something could be wrong. Ive had all the bloods taken now as its not worth fighting them over it.

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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 08:15 AM   5
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I am pretty sure that you can refuse them if you really wanted to... but please know... my doctor told me that (and it may not be the same where you are) if you DONT get your blood tests done, when the baby is born they will treat the baby and medicate them as if they have any of the diseases.... so personal opinion... getting a few blood tests done now will save a lot of stress with the baby later.
Also... just a question... don't they take all the blood they need from you at the same time during one blood test?? They just take a few extra viles. I don't know.... things are different all over.
Best of luck!!



 
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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 08:35 AM   6
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I'm certain that you can say no - anyone has the right to refuse medical treatment.

That said, I think that the reason that they think that having the tests each time is a good idea is not because they think you are stupid or anything - it's because sadly, some people do have cheating partners etc or are in denial about risky behaviours. So when you're dealing with a wide range of people, many of whom are doubtless not very smart or enlightened, it's easier to recommend tests every time across the board.

I think they take the attitude that prevention is better than cure, basically.

I am most certainly not suggesting that any of us are in denial or anything(!), just trying to explain why I think they do it that way.

So yes, you can refuse blood tests (I think the only way they could make you is by getting a court to rule something against you, which they are not going to do - you can't just force someone to submit to a needle, haha!) but I wonder if you would be better off explaining the difficulties you had with the blood tests last time and extracting a promise that they will do better this time? I have had times when I had blood tests when they couldn't find the vein and it was not pleasant, but with the right technician with the right attitude it was still all over fairly quickly. If you have other issues (some people have huge phobias about blood/needles etc) perhaps you could discuss this with your midwife? I'm just thinking that it might save extra hassles in the long run.

I hope that helps at least a tiny bit!



 
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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 09:04 AM   7
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Its not just to protect you hun, its to protect their staff also, What would happen if you were HIV positive, I know your not, and that wasnt factored into the delivery? It would put all the medical staff at risk. So as gogypie says they will go on the basis that you have all of the unplesant things that they are testing for making the whole thing more drawn out for everyone.

For the sake of a jab it would be better for eveyone to have the tests done including your baby! X



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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 09:10 AM   8
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thanks for the replies....
what gets me about the drs and nurses is the fact that no matter what you say they wont listen. I know how im going to react at my appointment, persistant to the fact that im not having them, i dont have anything wrong with me and i see no reason to have them. that being said, i just know the answer i'll get is "ok, if you're so sure you have nothing wrong with you then you wont mind us taking the blood"
i waited til i was 16 weeks pregnant with my ds before having anby tests, i didnt want them doing it at all so they allowed me to wait til i had the downs test and took all of the booking bloods at once- i had 8 viles taken from me... i have no idea why so many but i was on gas and air to calm me down.
it was done at the ante natal clinic in the maternity hospital so it was all very "medical" which i think is why i panicked so much.
it was right after my scan.



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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 10:38 AM   9
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Having bloods done shouldn't be that terrifying but it can be for some people. If you don't look, it can really help (I always face the other way) They can just do them all in one go in about 20/30 seconds, they just keep filling them up. Clearly you have had really bad experiences and somebody needs to take care of you next time you go or you will end up having a really awful phobia.

You need to be taken seriously. It would be a shame for you not to get them done because of fear but I can understand why you really don't want them x Could somebody call the clinic on your behalf to explain the situation before you go? x Good luck x



 
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Old Nov 25th, 2009, 11:33 AM   10
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I signed a paper that I was ok with having a HIV test. The same with the toxmoplasmosis test, which I even had to pay (but in my case I found it important because I'm around cast quite often). They also checked my vitamin levels ect, which I also find reasonable. I refused the trisonomy test because why stress out about something you could not change, anyway. Wasn't a problem at all that I did not take it.



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