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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 15:42 PM   11
danijoanne
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Hi Hun do you have specialist consultants in antenatal psychiatrics? With regards to medication they have more factual, evidence based knowledge over the best psychiatric medication to take and when and its effect on the baby. If you can get a consultation with them that'd be far better than a gp as they are more specialised. Good luck I'm sure you'll find something that works 😀



 
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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 15:47 PM   12
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Hi Hun do you have specialist consultants in antenatal psychiatrics? With regards to medication they have more factual, evidence based knowledge over the best psychiatric medication to take and when and its effect on the baby. If you can get a consultation with them that'd be far better than a gp as they are more specialised. Good luck I'm sure you'll find something that works 😀
I wish it was that easy. I actually live in Europe atm (Im an American Expat) and I don't speak the language here and psychiatric help in general here is limited (ive seen 2 psychiatrists here who were actually mean to me and made my anxiety worse for weeks after the appointments. Ive given up and started planning my appointments with my US psychiatrist when I visit home like once a year). Maybe I can try and set up a skype appointment with someone in the US though that may be a good idea and I know more offices are starting to do call/online consultations. Thanks for the suggestion!



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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 15:54 PM   13
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Use of Xanax and other benzodiazepines during the first trimester is associated with increased risk of miscarriage, which is part of why the FDA considers them pregnancy category D. I agree with danijoanne's recommendation about seeing a reproductive psychiatrist to review your medications. If that's not possible then you should at least try to talk to an OB with experience in this area. I'm sure you'll be able to figure out something



 
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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 15:57 PM   14
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I really feel for you and can totally sympathise. I also hate flying to the point where I cry when taking off and landing. I usually drink a couple alcoholic drinks to help but obviously I can't now.
Can I ask, what exactly is it your worried about?

I am worried about crashing and all the unusual sounds. What I found helped was watching youtube videos of a plane taking off and landing to familiarise myself with the sounds and process. I then also research the statistics on crashes and feel a bit more at ease. It depends on what causes your anxiety though.

My suggestion would be to skip the medication if at all possible and endure the stress. I flew twice during my first pregnancy and I was extremely stressed. My son was perfectly healthy and fine and I thjnk I would rather subject him to stress which can be healthy for them - blood pumping through your veins strongly - instead of subjecting him to medication which I just don't know what it could cause

Sorry it's probably not what you wanted to hear although admittedly I have no experience at all with these medications.



 
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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 15:57 PM   15
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A wedding isn't as important as your child's health. If you absolutely can not fly without taking anything that is harmful to baby, don't fly.
If your child was to be born with any health problems you'd never be able to forgive yourself. A wedding only lasts a day, your child's health is a lifetime.

Sorry to be so blunt but it's a no brainer in my opinion.



 
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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 16:13 PM   16
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I really feel for you and can totally sympathise. I also hate flying to the point where I cry when taking off and landing. I usually drink a couple alcoholic drinks to help but obviously I can't now.
Can I ask, what exactly is it your worried about?

I am worried about crashing and all the unusual sounds. What I found helped was watching youtube videos of a plane taking off and landing to familiarise myself with the sounds and process. I then also research the statistics on crashes and feel a bit more at ease. It depends on what causes your anxiety though.

My suggestion would be to skip the medication if at all possible and endure the stress. I flew twice during my first pregnancy and I was extremely stressed. My son was perfectly healthy and fine and I thjnk I would rather subject him to stress which can be healthy for them - blood pumping through your veins strongly - instead of subjecting him to medication which I just don't know what it could cause

Sorry it's probably not what you wanted to hear although admittedly I have no experience at all with these medications.
I mostly fear the 5-8 minutes the plane is going down and I know Ill die lol as weird as that may sound. The terrorism aspect also scares me. I know 100% it is completely irrational and that flying is very safe, but also parts of my PTSD have to do with claustrophobia and major issues with lack of control which obviously when flying is always the case.

As I said earlier I think what Im going to do is try benedryl and/or unisom (probably 1 or the other each direction) on my 3 1/2 hr flight later this month and see if it helps. There are some studies on unisom saying it can help anxiety so Im hopeful. At least until I see my doctor.

I appreciate all of the honesty and In all honesty I wasn't looking to hear it was ok since I already knew it wasn't I was just wondering if anyone had possibly had an experience with periodic use of the drugs for panic while pregnant or any advice and support.


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A wedding isn't as important as your child's health. If you absolutely can not fly without taking anything that is harmful to baby, don't fly.
If your child was to be born with any health problems you'd never be able to forgive yourself. A wedding only lasts a day, your child's health is a lifetime.

Sorry to be so blunt but it's a no brainer in my opinion.

My husbands and my relationship is just as important as any baby we plan to bring into the world and resentment isnt intentional most times. I don't think he'd admit that he would resent me but I believe he would (I believe anyone would in a similar situation whether its conscious or not). Also if you read my post youd see I DID fly with no medication 3 days ago, but that it was hell so I CAN fly I just hated it with a passion and was terrified the entire flight.
Id also never forgive myself if my husband ended up resenting me because of my stupid irrational fear.

Add that to the fact that there hasn't been a single study since the 1970s that says benzos cause birth defects and I dont think there is anything thats a no brainer about this.



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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 16:49 PM   17
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Ah it's hard when your not in your native country to access support. I'm a psychiatric nurse but I specialise in children so antenatal isn't my forte. I take fluoxetine still, my go was strongly against it as the leaflet said not to take it ( you'll find with most medications it says not take in pregnancy, most drug companies are fearful of any repercussions) however you have to look at risk to taking medication to other factors, ie long term psychological damage, I know people are saying just don't fly but if you have anxiety and ptsd it's all the associated feelings and worries that go along side or if you didn't take the flight, the guilt and anxiety you would feel to your partner and relationship. I hope you can find a specialist doctor to speak to to see what other medication options there are and even homeopathic treatments. Do you use any mindfulness tactics in order to help with the anxieties ie cbt, acupuncture, pressure points aromatherapy etc xx



 
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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 16:55 PM   18
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Ps mental health is just as important and physical health so looking to take medications and researching effects and doing your homework shows a strength and fab insight into it 😀😀😀😀 if you were in pain and needed to take a medication for the pain you would research the best one and consult doctor it's the same with psychiatric health. Unfortunately not everyone sees it that way. I have to take psychiatric medication, I could probably survive without but it would be horrible for me and my family, there is no conclusive evidence showing any side effects of the medication but there is anecdotal possibilities. I have people make me feel guilty for still taking it but I don't, my mental health is imperative to mine and my families wellbeing including my unborn babies. So don't ever feel guilty for thinking about trying to be in the best mental state you can be. 😀



 
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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 16:56 PM   19
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Sorry for the ramble. I get so passionate about anything mental health, coupled with hormones I go right off on a tangent x



 
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Old Mar 9th, 2016, 17:09 PM   20
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Posted my previous post quickly. I'm also terrified of flying (panic attacks, the lot) and suffer from claustrophobia- its also about the loss of control for me - that and the risk of death.

To say your relationship is more important than a child seems absurd to me. If your partner is going to resent you for not wanting to risk your childs health then you are better off without him in my opinion.

I have two weddings abroad next year, both very close friends, we are in the wedding party for both, and if I'm pregnant I'm sure as hell not going to either. Aside from anything else, long-haul flights can be dangerous in later pregnancy due to increased risk of DVT etc. - most airlines don't accept ladies over 27 weeks travel without a "fit to fly" certificate. I'm not sure you would get such a form considering the severity of your anxiety.

As the PP said, could you live with yourself if the baby had some sort of birth defect (even if it was unrelated to medication, you would always wonder if the medication caused it) - I lost three pregnancies before my LG was born and I second guess everything I did when pregnant incase I caused it, when in reality it would probably have happened anyway.

Stress doesn't have that much effect on a baby anyway. I had anxiety throughout my pregnancy and she's perfectly healthy (at times my anxiety was crippling, to the point my resting heart rate was 137 bpm for days on end)



 
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