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Old Jun 7th, 2010, 19:07 PM   201
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Many people argue that the diseases were actually declining long before vaccines were introduced, and that the main reasons these diseases were on the decline was because of better food and clean drinking water, also improved sanitation and better living conditions.

Heres a website with a bunch of stats and graphs showing how the diseases were already declining before vaccines.

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

Just some food for thought.



 
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Old Jun 7th, 2010, 19:59 PM   202
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While the studies of the doctor linking vaccinations to autism has been "proven negligent" or what have you, who here has looked up the symptoms of mercury poisoning? Yes, there is mercury in vaccinations in the form of thimerosal. Thimerosal is almost 50% mercury. Is it possible to get mercury poisoning from vaccinations? That's not a question I would like to be answered by experiments on my child. So, for those who do not know what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are, I will post the following:

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Symptoms of mercury poisoning in humans

1. Psychological disturbances
Angry fits, short term memory loss, low self esteem, inability to sleep, loss of self-control, sleepiness. Loss of an ability to learn new things, doing things by rote.

2. Oral Cavity problems
Inflammation of the mouth, loss of bone around teeth, ulcerated gums and other areas in the mouth, loose teeth, darkening of gums, taste of metal, bleeding of gums.

3. Digestive tract problems
Cramps, inflamed colon, GI problems, Diarrhea and other digestive problems.

4. Cardiovascular problems
Weak pulse, blood pressure changes, chest pain, or feeling of pressure in the chest area.

5. Respiratory problems
Weakness and problems with breathing, Emphysema, Coughing persistently.

6 Neurological Problems
Headaches, vertigo, tinnitus, shaking in various areas of the body (eye lids, feet etc)

Symptoms in children
Mercury poisoning in Children is a cause of many symptoms of developmental disorders including Autism, Asperger’s, PDD-NOS, ADD.

Common neurological symptoms that occur in children are: decreased eye contact, flat affect, repeating certain actions over and over again, not responding to their name, not looking at an object that is being pointed at by another, poor concentration or attention, sensitivity to sensory stimulation. Common language or speech symptoms of mercury poisoning: loss of speech, delayed speech decreased understanding and articulating words, remembering certain words. Also common are social problems such as withdrawal, being irritated, aggressive behavior, night terrors and other sleep problems, mood swings. In addition other symptoms include auto-immune disorders such as multiple sclerosis, juvenile diabetes, asthma, chromic ear infections, and decreased immunity.



 
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Silver Penny!

Thanks for posting that. Sounds like autism to me!

How are you feeling.



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as a parent i am responsible for my child from the minute it is conceived - i am careful to avoid chemicals or other substances which might adversely affect my pregnancy and, therefore, unborn baby. i've done an awful lot of research on vaccines in general and, i'm sorry, having done my best to protect my baby in the womb i am not, at two months old, going to fill it full of chemicals and diseased matter. it will be vaccinated for the 'biggies' but not until it is at least 6 months old. i intend to breastfeed - as long as my baby is breastfed it will be covered by my immunity to these diseases. this will stop when i stop breastfeeding - at which point it will get its first lot of injections. i'm not going to bother with the MMR because it doesn't give 100% immunity (i've mentioned direct personal experince of this earlier in this thread). there is also lots of evidence to suggest that levels of measles mumps and rubella weren't actually that high in this country prior to the vaccination programme. its also very rare for very young babies to contract these diseases - if you have your child vaccinated then it is NOT at risk from a non-vaccinated baby.

this is a personal choice - there is no right or wrong.....we need to be respectful of one another's choices. i think its very sad that people are getting quite so heated. no parent, no parent wants their child to suffer!
Actually it can kill an unborn child in a pregnant woman, so yes it can be a risk to other children. Also a risk to any child who may have allergies to vaccines and could not have them. I am sure there are many people that an unvaccinated kid could be a risk to.



 
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shannon!

Doing well! How are you? (There's nothing quite like thread hijacking! )



 
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Im doing okay.. lol. waiting fir my body to sort out...I love thread hijacking!



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Personally, I will definitely, 100% be vaccinating. The only thing I won't be having is the swine flu vaccine, if I'm offered it, but only because it's so new and there haven't been enough tests on the effects on pregnant women, IMO. I actually had swine flu before I was pregnant, and it wasn't fun.

One thing I have to say to those who talk of vaccines that are filled with "chemicals"...are you aware just what a chemical is? Water is a chemical. Salt and sugar are chemicals. A chemical substance is a material with a specific composition. I just do not understand people who use the "chemical" argument. Maybe it would be best to say "man made materials" or something like that, because using "chemicals" is very vague.



 
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Perhaps you would like them to list all of the "chemicals" in the vaccinations, such as the thimerosal, formaldehyde, aluminum, and phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)? I suppose that would be specific enough....



 
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Old Jun 8th, 2010, 00:43 AM   209
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While the studies of the doctor linking vaccinations to autism has been "proven negligent" or what have you, who here has looked up the symptoms of mercury poisoning? Yes, there is mercury in vaccinations in the form of thimerosal. Thimerosal is almost 50% mercury. Is it possible to get mercury poisoning from vaccinations? That's not a question I would like to be answered by experiments on my child. So, for those who do not know what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are, I will post the following:

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Symptoms of mercury poisoning in humans

1. Psychological disturbances
Angry fits, short term memory loss, low self esteem, inability to sleep, loss of self-control, sleepiness. Loss of an ability to learn new things, doing things by rote.

2. Oral Cavity problems
Inflammation of the mouth, loss of bone around teeth, ulcerated gums and other areas in the mouth, loose teeth, darkening of gums, taste of metal, bleeding of gums.

3. Digestive tract problems
Cramps, inflamed colon, GI problems, Diarrhea and other digestive problems.

4. Cardiovascular problems
Weak pulse, blood pressure changes, chest pain, or feeling of pressure in the chest area.

5. Respiratory problems
Weakness and problems with breathing, Emphysema, Coughing persistently.

6 Neurological Problems
Headaches, vertigo, tinnitus, shaking in various areas of the body (eye lids, feet etc)

Symptoms in children
Mercury poisoning in Children is a cause of many symptoms of developmental disorders including Autism, Asperger’s, PDD-NOS, ADD.

Common neurological symptoms that occur in children are: decreased eye contact, flat affect, repeating certain actions over and over again, not responding to their name, not looking at an object that is being pointed at by another, poor concentration or attention, sensitivity to sensory stimulation. Common language or speech symptoms of mercury poisoning: loss of speech, delayed speech decreased understanding and articulating words, remembering certain words. Also common are social problems such as withdrawal, being irritated, aggressive behavior, night terrors and other sleep problems, mood swings. In addition other symptoms include auto-immune disorders such as multiple sclerosis, juvenile diabetes, asthma, chromic ear infections, and decreased immunity.
My daughter has autism and does not have any of those symptoms. Not all autism spectrums present the same. There are five types of ASD. My daughter has PDD-NOS.

Also, Canadian vaccinations DO NOT contain mercury.

http://vran.org/vaccines/mercury/mer-info.htm



 
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Old Jun 8th, 2010, 02:08 AM   210
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I don't stand by all of it but how do you feel having mercury and formaldehyde injected into you 8 week old baby?

I have researched this for months before I came to my decision, I take you it you have to.

I just wanted to let people know of some sites although there are hundreds out there if you really want to look into both sides.
i feel great about it being injected into my 8 week old baby if it does the job to protect him from dying a slow painful death from some awful disease



 
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