20,000 hcg level ultrasound showed gest sac and yolk sack but no fetal pole?
hello i have posted on here before but wanted to know if any of you wondeful mummies or mummies to be have had a similar experience...
i was informed yesterday by my gyno that this pregnancy is not viable i just dont believe her, so here is my story
i found out i was pregnant on the 25th nov 2011 my LMP was on the 22nd oct 2011, went into doc on the 23rd she did hcg test and came back at 35 she said i was very early and to come back in couple of weeks so i went back on the 8th of dec and she re did my bloods and sent a refferal off for a mid wife and also gave me a refferal to have an ultrasound, i rang and booked the ultrasound for the following day the 9th of dec drank my litre of water like instructed to (wow holding that is hard lol) went for ultrasound (abdominal) she saw a gest sac and said i would only have been about 5 weeks, i rang the doctor that afternoon and got my blood test results which and my hcg level had gone up to 7677 but that night i noticed some blood when i went to the toilet i had no cramping and it was brown blood and not very much i decided to keep an eye on it and only had it once more that night so i rang my doctor first thing in the morning the dec as i had some spotting when i woke up she squeezed me in to see her and she said as long as i have no abdominal pain and the bleeding isnt as heavy or heavier than a period i should be fine but if i was to concerned to go to the hospital so i waited over the weekend still had minor spotting but not everytime i went to the toilet and was only ever on toilet paper but on the monday the 12th of dec i still was spotting and had some little cramps and decided it was best to go out to the hospital, i went out and the doc took my bloods and found out i was o- blood and gave me an anti d shot but was not overly worried about the spotting or cramps he did refer me for another ultrasound a week after the first one and also to gyno to see what the bleeding was coming from and told me to see my doc later in the week so on the thursday the 15th i went back to my doc who informed my hcg levels had gone up to 20000 and that puts me at about 8 weeks, and that everything looked fine and to see how the ultrasound goes tomorrow, went to ultrasound (vaginal this time) on the 16th of dec she said the gest sac had grwon nicely and was about the size of a 6 week and saw a yolk sac inside and she couldnt be 100% sure but said she thinks she may have seen the embryo but said it was most likely still early, she sent me on my way and i had to wait for my gyno app which had been made for the 21st of dec i still had been spotting this whole time and it ranged from brown to pink to red but no cramps, so i went to my gyno app and she basically said to me this pregnancy is not viable and that i should have a d&c straight away because with my hcg levels at 20000 and being i was 6 weeks and 4 days at my last ultrasound she should have at least seen a fetal pole i couldnt believe how cold and callous she was about it she also informed me i had a bicornuate uterus which basically means mine is more the shape of a heart than a pear and that most pregnancies will end in miscarriage beacuse of it i couldnt belive how she just cameout with not compassion or nothing!, i refused and reuested another blood test and ultrasound be done before i make a decsion that is so life changing, she agreed for me to have tehm done the following week and said as i walked out the door if you have not passed it naturally by the 3rd of jan you will have to have a d&c done, i was given a new app for the 3rd of jan i absoloutly bawled my eyes out on the way home and had to deliever the devasting news to everyone waiting at home but then later on in the afternoon i recieved a call from my doctor sugery asking me to come in the next day to see the doc about my results so i make the app for the morning and head off to it and i tell doc all about what the gyno said and he asked me what her name was but i said i didnt even get told that much he then asked me a few questions about her and when i said yeah thats her he just looked disappointed as if it wasnt the first time some one had complained about her, he has asked me to go for a new blood test and ultrasound and have the results deliverd to him so he can check and said just keep clam stay stress free and always remeber sometimes doctors can make mistakes so now i wait intul the 29th of dec for my new tests to see if my baby is ok :/
i would like to know has any mummies out there had high hcg levels and not seen the fetal pole or heartbeat on their ultrasound and gone on to have a beautiful healthy bubba
i am thinking postive and keeping happy and believing i am pregnant i dont know something inside tels me she is wrong
im sorry my post is so long and full of to much TMI and thankyou so much for your respones in advance xx baby dust to all you gorgeous mummies out there xx
Someone else will post something a bit more informative Im sure, I have no experience of this but is 5 weeks not too early to see a fetal pole. As far as I have read around the forums here? Good luck anyway and to you xo
From what Iv read everyone differs to when a fetal pole is seen, think it just depends how quickly the baby develops, think they usually say something around 24 days from conception but that's just an estimate I think. My old doctor with my first pregnancy said that where I live they don't usually like to do us until your 7 weeks when they know the hb will be there. Sorry I can't be much more help. I have my fingers crossed for you xxx
I have a similar story, I thought I was 6.5 weeks along but ended up i was only 4.5 (weird cycles always changing). My first ultrasound we saw nothing but a sac, I had another app a few days later with my OB who did another u/s at her office and the sac had grown but no fetus present still. She told me to prepare for the worst but not to get too worried until we had done another u/s in 2 weeks.
My next ultrasound was at 7w 3d and there was a beautiful healthy baby in there with a lovely 142bpm heart rate.
Really, everyone is different, we ovulate, develop and carry differently. 5 weeks and under is way too early to see a fetal pole in most cases. I did so much research in those 2 weeks it drove my husband mad, but it helped.
Even in some cases fetal poles and heart beats haven't shown up till week 7!
Didnt wanna read and run .
I dont have advice but i do think the doc. Who told you most pregnancies will end in MC because of ur uterus smh is a jerk ! Im sure ur lil bub is fine . Ihave u in my thoughts
thankyou guys so much am hoping thursday goes well when i have my ultrasound and blood test done i will not be going back to the gyno i saw she was so cold and rude i will be asking to change you would think with the type of job they have they would have some compassion, even my mum said who has had 6 kids and seen a gyno for each one she had never heard of one being so rude, good luck to all you wonderful mummies H&H 9 months x
I have a similar experience with my last pregnancy. I had u/s at 5, 6 and 7 weeks. They saw nothing but the gestational sac. The Dr ( he wasnt my dr) said I could get a dnc or there is a pill he could give me. My hcg wasn't where they 'thought' it should be. I refused to do anything and decided I would let nature take it's course. I finally saw my dr and he said although it didn't look good that he would schedule one more u/s so I could have closure. Finally at 8+1 there was my baby! So hang tight aren't out yet! I know how hard it is to be going through this. xoxo
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