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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 03:22 AM   #41
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Now before the sick ladies get mad at me. Hear me out.*
I have heard several times that you are more likely to have a healthy pregnancy
If you have morning sickness. Also heard bad things about not having it.*

I don't know the truth.*
But I'm 5wks3days and thought Id have it by now?

I have burped up puek. I know. Sorry*

But not feeling sick or pueky.*

How do you feel?

be happy, feeling sick has nothing to do with having a healthy pregnancy!!! i don't feel sick at all, and sincerely, most of my pregnant friends didn't have morning sickness or vomited at all.. i think it is a bit over-rated as a symptom, statistically speaking... you know, this is what they always show in movies, ladies puking and fainiting.. if i was you i'd be happy i don't have any!


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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 04:03 AM   #42
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I have read that online too and i think its a really irresponsible thing to publish considering all the women on here with first hand info that a lack of ms does not automatically lead to problems.. Just a bunch of bored scientists trying to justify their position no doubt! I dont know but good luck ladies x x
Sorry, I'm not targeting, but your message was something I could use for my reply.

It's not irresponsible to publish found data - it's irresponsible to not publish data that doesn't please some people. Yes, there are lots of people with first hand info that had a perfect pregnancy but that's far from a broad scientific study which interview all people, not just those who go on forums.

I think the pregnancy site which wrote the information should have been far more delicate with what they read and published themselves but the actual paper itself gives both sides with all the numbers.

I'm really not trying to be rude or upset anyone, truly. But as a scientist myself we try to make people aware of what we've found - whether its good or bad news. I hope I didn't offend, I just wanted to give the other side.


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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 06:59 AM   #43
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It's not irresponsible to publish found data - it's irresponsible to not publish data that doesn't please some people.
I would have to agree with that statement. A perfect example would be the latest U.K. health dpt fiasco with the research recently published on the effects of alcohol vs. street drugs.

I haven't read the article in question (no clue where it is), so it's a bit hard to write in the dark. However, I suspect the results are a little more complex then it lets on.

For example, I would like to know the actual statistical evidence. Has there been any environmental studies done along side? Any family history studies? Were there other significant factors present?

Unless the data is drastic (40%+), concluding that MS alone makes you A or B is a little simple, IMHO.

So back to the topic, unless there is a drastic difference, I do find it irresponsible to publish such things in a prenatal leaflet. That sort of preliminary finding belongs in the Lancet.

Needless to say most mums-to-be don't need any reason to always assume the worse, so why add that unnecessary stress, about something they have no control over?


 
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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 07:03 AM   #44
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until 11 weeks i had no morning sickness, or any sickness at all. then one morning i woke up and threw up, was fine, then 3 days later in the evening i couldnt keep anything down and threw up a few times. been completely fine since then.

also no change in breasts, which i find more worrying than lack of sickness!


 
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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #45
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I also have not had any morning sickness which concerns me but I feel much better after reading this thread! Thank you.
I am 8 weeks today. Last week I noticed a few days in a row that toward the afternoon and evening I would have heartburn. And I needed to eat but diet want to and could not imagine eating vegetables or cooking. I have also noticed that I can't eat as much at one time. Especially dinner. And that I don't really crave a lot of sweet things at night like I did before pregnancy.
I suppose that's good. It's prevented me from gaining weight so far. ( I'm not losing any either).
I'm concerned a little bit because one aunt had a miscarriage with her first pregnancy and she said she didn't have morning sickness with that one. It didn't expel until her fourth month :/
Anyway. I'll try to enjoy this for now. Today I am utterly exhausted I could cry. Runny nose sneezing ugh. Hope I'm not getting sick.


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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 18:29 PM   #46
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Reidfudler.

Hey!! Just talked to my mother in law. She said she had 5 healthy pregnancies and not a day of sickness. good news. Plus like others here have said. You can get it any time at all


 
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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 18:31 PM   #47
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It's not irresponsible to publish found data - it's irresponsible to not publish data that doesn't please some people.
I would have to agree with that statement. A perfect example would be the latest U.K. health dpt fiasco with the research recently published on the effects of alcohol vs. street drugs.

I haven't read the article in question (no clue where it is), so it's a bit hard to write in the dark. However, I suspect the results are a little more complex then it lets on.

For example, I would like to know the actual statistical evidence. Has there been any environmental studies done along side? Any family history studies? Were there other significant factors present?

Unless the data is drastic (40%+), concluding that MS alone makes you A or B is a little simple, IMHO.

So back to the topic, unless there is a drastic difference, I do find it irresponsible to publish such things in a prenatal leaflet. That sort of preliminary finding belongs in the Lancet.

Needless to say most mums-to-be don't need any reason to always assume the worse, so why add that unnecessary stress, about something they have no control over?

I totally agree. I would have liked to read what the study was.
Not just studies show a link between those who do not have morning sickness and miscarriage. I was so happy and reading that honestly frightened me!


 
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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 18:32 PM   #48
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I'm still extremely happy. I just meant " I was happily reading my book and BAM!


 
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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 19:30 PM   #49
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It's not irresponsible to publish found data - it's irresponsible to not publish data that doesn't please some people.
I would have to agree with that statement. A perfect example would be the latest U.K. health dpt fiasco with the research recently published on the effects of alcohol vs. street drugs.

I haven't read the article in question (no clue where it is), so it's a bit hard to write in the dark. However, I suspect the results are a little more complex then it lets on.

For example, I would like to know the actual statistical evidence. Has there been any environmental studies done along side? Any family history studies? Were there other significant factors present?

Unless the data is drastic (40%+), concluding that MS alone makes you A or B is a little simple, IMHO.

So back to the topic, unless there is a drastic difference, I do find it irresponsible to publish such things in a prenatal leaflet. That sort of preliminary finding belongs in the Lancet.

Needless to say most mums-to-be don't need any reason to always assume the worse, so why add that unnecessary stress, about something they have no control over?
Exactly. The leaflet needed to specify:
"(Mild/moderate/severe) morning sickness has been associated with an (x%) decrease in miscarriage rates. Confounding factors included... " or something similar and then reference the paper for further reading.
You CANNOT just write an unjustified statement scaring a population that is already on edge.

Back to subject matter, I am yet to experience cinematic glorious morning sickness with running to the nearest bin lol. Just a bit of nausea.


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Old Mar 5th, 2012, 20:52 PM   #50
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Hey glowbug
Thanks so much for sharing that. Makes me feel better. mother has told me that she got it more towards her third month. I guess well see. I'll ask midwife on Wednesday about this stuff.


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