Thanks Starlight. Yes, I did have a belly button piercing! It pushed out more than 10 years ago and just left a little scar. When I was pregnant with Fin I got stretchmarks going up a couple of inches starting from my scar. I seriously regret having it done, and even more so now I know the hernia might have been caused by it...

... on the bright side, I now have a hernia twin!!!

I had a totally crap night last night, on the sofa again. Managed only an hour or two sleep, and coughed so much I've now bruised my ribs both sides and pulled loads of muscles in my bump I was feeling so low I cried, but then I was dealt a big fat portion of perspective from my friend whose baby was delivered by emergency C section exactly 6 weeks ago. She texted with really good news about her little princess's progress, it still made me sit back and think about the complete nightmare they have had over the last 6 weeks... while all I've had is a cold for a week

Yeahhhh looks like we're back up and running- although has anyone has contact with Hinky or Captain?
I often wonder how they are both doing.

Dani- hello again hun- sorry to hear your still having prblems with the bleed, but it's good that its shrinking in size. Must be a real worry tho...as if it's not all worry as it is!!

i will be finding out the gender hopefully at my 20 week scan. I can't wait, but it will soon be here. Its on the 11th

Now then "the Hernia twins"- what do i say to that lol.... hopefully it wont get any worse for the both of you.

Everything, hopefully you and the OH will feel better soon- don't beat yourself up for having a whinge- we all get a little self absorbed when we are ill and so we should! Your friends has been through the mill, and gladly her LO is doing well- but if your feeling pants then your feeling pants hun!!

Trying to keep your motivation up when ytour looking after hubby and LO, while being ill yourself aint easy!

Star- I hope Maia is feeling better, poor little might. Now what's a VBac lol <novice>

Rowan- Teething time! Can't help feeling sorry for your DD, molars must be the worse i'm sure! Hopefully it will pass quickly for her and you!
Glad you've found a way to ease your pain with your support belt. Ive been looking at these- for later on obv. lol

Ok emotional woman alert!!
I am kicking myself at the min . I agreed to have the quad screening test (because of a major cock up i got my 1st scan way way too late to have the NT), and i dont know why! Now i'll be stressing if it comes back as highrisk (and what with my weight everything including the world economy is blamed on weight nowadays!!!!)
so i've almost convinced myself that with my age and weight it will come back as high risk- and i can think of nothing scarier than having an amnio- i've practically caused myself more stress!! I dont want an amnio because of the risk- and if the results come back as high risk i'll be stressing about that...

What have i done!!!!! I think i agreed because in my logical non emotional mind, having all the tests done, even if it meant having the amnio was the best option at my age..... clinical thinking, until i saw my little bumkin kicking and waving- and it all became so real that i'm too scared to do anything that would risk MC- and now i'll worry if it comes back highrisk.

Anyway- hope you dont mind me off loading. i dont know how to talk to the OH about it as he is very clinical in thinking generally, and he will just think get it done.

What do you all think?

Just seen this thread. Lovely to hear everyone's news. As you know, we have been having a break from ttc and just having a bit of chill out time.

Seems to have worked as we got our last week and so far am getting good progression, much darker lines than we ever had with the early losses.

I won't be able to relax until after the first tri, as we've had so many disappointments, but for now we are on

I haven't heard from Captain for a while, but I've got everything crossed that she will not be far behind me

Yeah Hinky! I am so so happy for you and DH!!! This is fantastic news



My fingers and toes are crossed crossed crossed for you.

2013 babies! rock on lol xx

Hinky yaaay!!! Congratulations!! I have everything crossed for a happy & healthy 9 months for you x

Chelli - try not to worry about the quad screening results. I don't know what impact weight would have on the results, and being a bit of a scrawnster my NT results wouldn't have been affected by it. BUT age is meant to be a big factor, yet my results came back as a risk of less than 1 in 10,000 (same as when I had Fin - its the lowest risk they do at my hospital). So it is still perfectly feasible for yours to come back as low risk too

I had the same wobble about getting the NT testing done with Fin - once I saw him wriggling around on the scan I thought no way I could do an amnio, any risk of MC was too much of an additional risk for me, so was it worth finding out the risk anyway? When do you get the results hunni? x

I got it done in the hospital the same day as my scan.

The nurse said to me:-
"Depending on the results, if you get a low risk, they are sent back in a job lot and you'll get a letter and it takes about 4 weeks, but if it is high risk, the midwife will call you to discuss in about 3 weeks. So the longer it goes the better"

So hopefully i'll hear nothing until the post man

First of all congratulations Hinky Sounds really promising with your line progression and I wish you a happy and healthy 9 months

Rowan you have my sympathies. Teething with molars is a nightmare. We are having trouble with canines at the minute. They have been showing under the gum and causing pain for a couple of months now but without any sign of breaking through. I wish they would hurry up already...

Chelli fingers crossed for no news (being good news). I'm sure everything will be fine I must admit I passed up any screening with both of my pregnancies as I know I couldn't have gone through with an amnio if it came back high risk. It won't be long until your test results are going to reassure you

A VBAC is a vaginal birth after a c section. I needed an emergency section with Maia but at my consultant appointment she said I was a good candidate for a VBAC and my chances of needing a section again (as things stand at the moment at least) are the same as someone who has never had one I didn't have a bad experience of a c section to be fair and recovered well but I can imagine it being harder with having a toddler as well as a newborn so fingers crossed.

Everything that's interesting that you had a belly button piercing too. They seem like a good idea when you're young don't they Would never have imagined that it could cause a hernia in pregnancy. As you say though, at least I now have a hernia twin. Not everyone can boast that x

Star- fingers crossed for you on the VBac then- having to manage with a newborn and a toddler after a Csection can't be fun so i have my fingers crossed.

Yes i now wish i'd not bothered with the screening, but i'm just going to put it to the back of my mind (as much as i can).. And fingers crossed it will all come back ok

On a more amusing note- I have officially ran out of trousers to fit me, and being on the larger side (size 20 ) It is proving to be a bit of a nightmare to find something suitable I could buy a larger side, but then that just makes my bum look bigger than it is already!! and i dont need help in that department lol...

ironically, after losing 2.5 stone before falling pregnant, i throew out lots of much bigger clothes lol

I have found something called a Belly Band, which covers over your existing trousers, and holds them up without you having to fasten them. Have any of you heard of this? Its around £25 so i might give it a go.
It goes over your jean/trousers band, and under your top- so it just looks like a layered cami if it shows.

I don't want to walk around in leggings for the next few months.

.....And don't even get me started when i need to get a Maternity bra!

Yes I used a belly band when I was pregnant with Maia and they do the job. You can stay in your pre preggie trousers a bit longer at least.

I'm a big convert to maternity jeans/trousers now though.

They're so comfy I had to buy new ones this pregnancy as I didn't stop wearing them between my pregnancy's and they were starting to wear holes in them

They don't have to be expensive either - New Look have a good range at relatively cheap prices and Matalan is pretty good too.

If you'd rather though a belly band will do the job for now x

Starlight - hopefully you'll get your VBAC then, fingers crossed. How old will Maia be when your little man is due?

Chelli it's funny you say that about your clothes - I've just put some pyjamas on because I couldn't stand to have my Mat jeans on anymore... and they were undone! The jeans I was wearing today are the ones I wore right through my 1st pregnancy and I don't remember them getting tight at all. I've bought another pair this pregnancy and they're more comfy but I can't wear them exclusively for the next 2 months! I am so tight though I don't want to buy something else to wear for such a short time.

I think my little man is sitting really low at the moment. Maybe I've coughed him down?!!