Chelli that's great news about your screening results And heartbeat too! My midwife wouldn't listen for the heartbeat at my 16 week check, I had to wait until 20 week scan, I was gutted.

Congratulations Rowan on your 20 week scan... over halfway there now!

I think I'd have turned down a Xmas Eve c section too Starlight! Wouldn't want to miss my Xmas dinner!! I hope they sort out a new date for her soon after the Xmas period though. It seems it's business as usual on the labour wards over Xmas, I guess our LO's have no sense of holiday spirit

That's so cute Hinky that Stan's excited for Xmas. I love it when they use expressions like 'wow'! Fin says stuff is "mazin" (amazing!), makes me laugh We've not really started the Xmas build-up yet, we will do once this weekend is over... it's Fin's birthday party today So far though he's been in a bit of a grump! He's obsessed with Baby Jake at the moment so he cried when it was bathtime cos he wanted one more Jaky, then he wanted birthday cake and then he wanted music (to play on daddy's keyboard)... none of which we gave in to. He's having a joint party with one of his friends from swimming and her mum just texted and said she's been whingy all morning too. Maybe they sense something?! x

We have "tastic" and "superduper" too! Oh, and "crikey moses" My mother has A LOT to answer for!

Stan was really grumpy on his birthday too - woke up from a nap and wouldn't stop crying. Being terrible parents we dosed him up with Calpol and Piriton and he was fine by the time the guests arrived haha.

We're obsessed with Peppa Pig here. Oh and Charley Bear and Cloudbabies. Our Sky + is down to like 5% or something as we don't dare delete any of 'his' programmes!

We've actually had to start using the naughty step since Stan turned 2, for biting. He's been biting for ages, started when we took his dummy away about a year ago and he will bite us if he is excited or tired. Very strange. But the naughty step seems to be working, he does his time and then says sorry, which is very cute. Just a warning is enough now: "lovely kisses for mummy please, no biting or you will have to go on that step!".

Just realised everyone so far is having a boy, is that right? Chelli, are you going to find out at your 20 week scan? I think we will definitely find out this time. We kept it a surprise last time but need to be a bit more practical this time I think!

Hinkybinky, just seen you are pregnant again!!
Huge congratulations to you!!!

Haha, crikey moses... I love it!

We tried the naughty step a couple of times, but Fin has taken ownership of it! He runs off to go on it all the time shouting 'naughty step, naughty step!' like its some sort of treat, so it doesn't really work as a punishment... smart kid

Yes Hinky, I think all of us that know the gender are having boys. In real life, everyone I know seems to be having girls this time around.

Well, Fin's party is all over and he absolutely loved it! We had a photographer so should have some lovely pictures. My friend who had a baby on Wednesday morning came along and the photographer took some lovely family photos for them so I'm looking forward to getting those too

"Crikey moses" Love that!

Glad Fin enjoyed his party- It's lovely when they get to an age where they really start "getting" it.

And the naughty step never worked on my neice, she just sits on it and sings or dances :/ but then i do call her monster for a reason lol

and yes i am planning on finding out the gender at my 20 week scan (positioning permitting!) For some reason all my friends keep saying a boy- to the point ive started saying he! I don't mind either way. aAt this moment i only have a girl's name i have a swaying towards.

My Midwife was lovely, and let me listen twice and the bumkin moved as we were listening 1st time, so she moved the dopler until i could hear it again. Was all too brief tho.

Dan-O - hows things with you? anymore news with your bleed? has it gone now?

Has anyone heard from Captain?

crikey moses - love it!!

M in cot - she seems to have reverted to 2 30 min naps a day - had 3 weeks of an hour in the am and an hour in the pm - was fab in terms of getting things done! ah well a new phase dawns lol

happy birthday to finn!

are you guys with los already nervous about how its going to go with another lo - like practically?

I think my overriding worry is how Stan will take to a new baby, having been the only one for so long. I think if I had a smaller gap, like yours will be Rowan, then the worry would be more about the practical side, but you may find that you'll have an easier ride emotionally as Martha will hardly remember being the only one. I suppose it's swings and roundabouts. I must say, I am hoping Stan will suddenly get the hang of the potty in the next 6 months!

Hi Ladies,

Id like your thoughts on home doplers please.

My SIL just offered hers to me as she no longer needs it.

Have any of you used them (i think someone mentioned using them but cant think who)
If so did you find it a help or increased your worry?

How easy is it to find the heartbeat?

i dont want to get it and then get all obsessional over it- i can sort of worry over everything, especially after the loss.

But it would be lovely to hear the heartbeat- reassurring too i think.

Any thoughts?

I used one earlier on, but it rarely comes out now I'm feeling kicks. you should be able to find the hb fairly easily now.

Oh and my bleed was still there at 16+5 and measuring the same as it did at 12w, but baby is way bigger than it now, so it doesn't looks as threatening! Got my 20w scan next week, so will know more then. Think I may have a low lying placenta.