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Old Jun 17th, 2017, 15:25 PM   1281
lilmisscaviar
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Makes sense, babybump. If the baby shifts position to where all of the kicks/movements are going into the placenta then you're likely to feel less movement. I had a couple days this past week where I didn't feel baby move much but today he's been moving quite a bit. I also notice that he seems to move less during a growth spurt. The only reason I think it is a growth spurt is because when he starts moving a lot again, I'll get bad SPD and my belly feels really heavy.



 
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Old Jun 17th, 2017, 23:01 PM   1282
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Did anyone else see that the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists changed some of its recommendations this month? Basically their new position is that as long as nothing is wrong, leave the woman alone. This may sound so simple but the truth is that has not been standard hospital practice at all. There is an unnecessary amount of inductions and interventions associated with hospital births and hopefully these new guidelines will help change that and lower the cesarean section rates in the US. The new guidelines recognize that laboring on your back confined to a bed and hooked up to a monitor may not be in the laboring woman's best interest or the best way to encourage labor to progress. It recommends using a hand held Doppler intermittently so that the woman can freely move around. It also states that low risk woman should not be placed on a timeline to delivery, even if they have an epidural, that letting labor progress naturally is now recommended. The new guidelines also now let laboring women drink and recommend that doctors think twice about whether IV fluids are necessary or not, instead of it being part of the common practice that everyone gets. It doesn't go so far to say that women should be allowed to eat during labor, but it does suggest that this be reevaluated in the near future. Basically, the new guidelines recommend for OBs to be more hands off (as long as nothing is wrong) and to start to take on more of the birthing philosophy of midwives. I would imagine it will take time for OBs to change how they are accustomed to doing things but hopefully the culture slowly will start to change. I totally understand that birth is unpredictable and so many things can happen BUT, I think what many people don't realize is that sometimes interventions bring on the need for more interventions which can bring on the need for more interventions etc. I'm not saying that interventions aren't ever necessary, just that some things shouldn't be as "routine " as they are. Has anyone watched the documentary "The business of being born?" I was so happy to see these new guidelines this month, they sound so simple, but I really think it's going to bring more women closer to the experience that they hoped for and hopefully lower the Csection rate.



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Old Jun 17th, 2017, 23:05 PM   1283
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I think it's great to see the new recommendation, but it's crazy to me that it's necessary. You'd think leaving well enough alone would be pretty obvious...



 
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Old Jun 17th, 2017, 23:43 PM   1284
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Right on



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Old Jun 19th, 2017, 07:01 AM   1285
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I saw "The Business of Being Born" ages ago and I still think about/reference it. It was a powerful documentary. I will say that I've grown more comfortable with the idea of interventions than I was when I first watched it (at the time I wanted a completely hands off, home birth - whereas now I'm happy with the idea of birthing in a hospital with the intent of no interventions, but am open to the idea if that's where the experience takes me) but I think it had a LOT of great points and really brought to light some inherent conflicts with a for-profit medical system.

That's really great news about the changes to ACOG!



 
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Old Jun 19th, 2017, 17:36 PM   1286
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I'm not opposed to interventions either, when necessary. It's some of the routine practices that are beneficial for the flow of the system not the laboring woman and her baby that I am happy to see change.



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Old Jun 19th, 2017, 20:46 PM   1287
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I've always wanted to attempt a home birth, but then when the time comes, I don't know if I'd chicken out. As much as I want as few interventions as possible, the baby's health, as well as my own comes before all. All of my kids were born at a birth center with a midwife rather than a OB/GYN which was perfect because I feel more comfortable knowing that those interventions are there if I need them, yet I like to deliver as natural as possible. Thankfully my first three babies were born without the need for any pain relief.



 
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Old Jun 24th, 2017, 09:56 AM   1288
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I mentioned a home birth to my other half not long ago actually. He thinks being our first child it seems a bad idea and thinks a hospital birth is a more sensible choice. That way if (god forbid) there are any complications etc then we are in the right place. I have been asked by my midwife to start writing my birth notes. So far I have minimal pain relief (let's see if I can stick to that haha) and no students in the room. I've been offered to give birth in a new built suite in the hospital, they have double beds mood lighting built in birth pools etc. To be able to opt for this suite you have to have a straight forward easy pregnancy as they offer next to no pain relief. Just pethadine and gas and air. So that is definitely something to think about



 
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Old Jun 24th, 2017, 11:03 AM   1289
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My birthing plan sounds very different to most of you ladies lol! Under 'pain relief' I have literally written 'EPIDURAL, EPIDURAL, EPIDIRAL!' I opted for only gas and air with my first and had a horrific experience. I was too far gone when I got to labour suite for an epidural anyway but I was screaming for 1 haha. My daughter was back to back and I was pushing for 2 hours but she just wasn't budging so I was then taken for an emergency section although ended up with rotational forceps to turn her. I was going to try as little pain relief again this time as I thought well last time was horrendous but I got there in the end and then a few months ago I was a birthing partner for my sister and I completely changed my mind. She opted for an epidural at 4cm, fell asleep about half an hour later for 5 hours, woke up and was told she was now 10cm and to start pushing when she was ready. Off she went and my nephew was born under what I can only describe as the calmest circumstances I've ever seen. It was so different to what I experienced as she was just sitting chatting away to us in between pushes about every day rubbish because she wasn't feeling any pain. I definitely want that this time around after my eventful experience last time lol x



 
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Old Jun 26th, 2017, 07:38 AM   1290
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Tess - I'm really 50/50 on whether or not to get an epidural. I really don't want a miserable birth experience, so if it gets miserable I have zero problem with requesting one. The only reason I'm not immediately going there is that I haven't experienced labor ever so I don't really know how it's going to be, you know?

Anyone else starting to get pretty uncomfortable? T-minus 10 weeks!



 
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