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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 08:48 AM   #1
beth_terri
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Why wont oh see things from my point of view!


He has handed in his notice to the army so will be out next Feb. He is a diver by trade so has nearly all his licences including HGV. I also have a friend who works along side army personel and can get him his civi equivelant qualification to what he has now dirt cheap as well as finding him a job earning a heck of a lot more than he is on now. So to us normal people this sounds great yes?? Well not to him!

No he wants to totally re train as a PE teacher. Which means doing a 1 year access course, followed by 3 years at uni followed by a PGCE which is 1 year. Now my question is how the hell is he gona do that when he needs to be working? I appreciate the fact that he has aspirations in life etc but I think now is not the time to be thinking about this! If I was able to do what he can and earn the money he can Id completly give up on my dream job of being a midwife!! But as all I do is work in a supermarket I cant earn us any decent money. Every time I say this to him he thinks im nagging and trying to put him down etc but im really not im just being realistic! He needs to provide for our family the way he can now not 6 years down the line!

Grrr! And this isnt me being a hormonal pregnant woman this is me genuinly annoyed.
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 08:51 AM   #2
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wow that sucks. Its annoying theres like so much pressure to go back to school and get different degrees.. yea its ok if you're single, but if you have a family counting on an income its not that great.
Maybe he could do nightschool? I dunno what to suggest.


 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 08:53 AM   #3
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Omg...


 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 08:53 AM   #4
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wow that sucks. Its annoying theres like so much pressure to go back to school and get different degrees.. yea its ok if you're single, but if you have a family counting on an income its not that great.
Maybe he could do nightschool? I dunno what to suggest.
Weve looked into this for him but theres not much. He could do the access course on a night but not university. He just annoys me so much. Ive put my career on hold so why cant he respect that and do the same!
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 08:53 AM   #5
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I'm sorry but I completely see his point. He should do what he wants to do...do you want your OH constantly miserable? Because that's what I'm like with my job. And OH fully supports any decision I make I would really love to become a teacher and completely retrain...the only thing holding me back is me. OH encourages me as he wants me happy. I completely agree with your OH. If he is prepared and willing to put in the hard work it will take good on him...it's just something that will need to be discussed and planned and not just jumped into. You can get a lot of help with him going to university so I wouldn't worry about it. Just ask him to come up with a way he thinks it will work...i'e money and time wise and see if you can see things better with this information on top of his wish to do something else.


 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 09:01 AM   #6
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I fully understand both views. Me and hubby have pretty good jobs, but let me tell you I HATE my job. I am going to school to work in the criminal justice field probably as a councelor. I wanted to be a teacher but the US economy is not exactly good with job opportunties in that field. I have to work to help support our child and baby on the way, so I go to school online or to a class after work. Can he do that? Work days school at night. Work night school days or maybe online? I know how important the money is, but maybe he can do both? I dont know hoe uni works where you are but I hope I helped.


 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 09:02 AM   #7
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I'm sorry but I completely see his point. He should do what he wants to do...do you want your OH constantly miserable? Because that's what I'm like with my job. And OH fully supports any decision I make I would really love to become a teacher and completely retrain...the only thing holding me back is me. OH encourages me as he wants me happy. I completely agree with your OH. If he is prepared and willing to put in the hard work it will take good on him...it's just something that will need to be discussed and planned and not just jumped into. You can get a lot of help with him going to university so I wouldn't worry about it. Just ask him to come up with a way he thinks it will work...i'e money and time wise and see if you can see things better with this information on top of his wish to do something else.
But this is the thing, he doesnt have a way around it. He doesnt have an answer to money or anything. And the thing that annoys me the most is I will be constently miserable in morrisons the entire time he trains for this new brilliant idea he has even though he knows that i want to train in midwifery. Ive done my access course im wairting now until I can go to uni. If he goes along with his fantastic plan I will not get to do it until he has a job 6+ years down the line. I think its selfish how he has done it. Ive started my studies supposedly with his support. Now he has decided he wants to also. We cant both do it at the same time thats a simple fact. Ive been wanting to go into midwifery for years, he has just decided he wants to be a pe teacher.


 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 09:11 AM   #8
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I'm sorry but I completely see his point. He should do what he wants to do...do you want your OH constantly miserable? Because that's what I'm like with my job. And OH fully supports any decision I make I would really love to become a teacher and completely retrain...the only thing holding me back is me. OH encourages me as he wants me happy. I completely agree with your OH. If he is prepared and willing to put in the hard work it will take good on him...it's just something that will need to be discussed and planned and not just jumped into. You can get a lot of help with him going to university so I wouldn't worry about it. Just ask him to come up with a way he thinks it will work...i'e money and time wise and see if you can see things better with this information on top of his wish to do something else.
But this is the thing, he doesnt have a way around it. He doesnt have an answer to money or anything. And the thing that annoys me the most is I will be constently miserable in morrisons the entire time he trains for this new brilliant idea he has even though he knows that i want to train in midwifery. Ive done my access course im wairting now until I can go to uni. If he goes along with his fantastic plan I will not get to do it until he has a job 6+ years down the line. I think its selfish how he has done it. Ive started my studies supposedly with his support. Now he has decided he wants to also. We cant both do it at the same time thats a simple fact. Ive been wanting to go into midwifery for years, he has just decided he wants to be a pe teacher.
Well that's different I wasn't aware that you had already started studies, I now think he's being selfish. Why don't you ask to compromise and say you will fully support him starting his studies, once you have completed your already started studies. You should both do some research into student loans, maintenance loans, grants and bursaries. I wouldn't worry too much about the loans as OH's mum is a bank manager and still doesn't earn enough to HAVE to pay back her student loan lol. Look into the help you will get for instance housing benefit does help students with children. I looked into all of this before as I was planning to go to university but as my grades weren't quite high enough (about 20 points off what they wanted) I decided to wait until I was a mature student lol. I luckily can do it for much cheaper through OU as it's English I would like to teach, PE however is completely different x


 
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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 09:18 AM   #9
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Beth doing a degree at University isnt actually fulltime (Even though it is classed as a full time course). Most degrees end up being only about 12 hours contact time anyway. So he could do work around it. Even law degrees are only about 12 hours contact. The only proper full time degrees that I know of are teacher B'eds (Which is when you train in Primary for 3 years) and Health and Social Care sector degrees. And that is only because both those types of degree have full time placements. University is such a doddle, he will be fine to work and attend classes, I know some people who only have 8 hours contact time with their lecturers - My degree only required me to be in 10 hours a week, pretty good going I say!

They always say 'be prepared to be available for study for 35 hours a week' but its a load of rubbish. What they mean is attend lectures and the rest of the time spend it studying, reading etc.

I say tell him to go for it, sorry I know that's not what you want to hear. I don't see why you both cant be students, the amount of financial support you will receive will be pretty good! And normally nursery placements are funded by your education establishment. You'll both be entitled to student loans and grants and maintenance loans and grants. And a load of other stuff if your a parent. And if your renting all your housing will be paid for. It quite common to have 2 parents to be studying at the same time so it shows it can be done.

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Old Feb 22nd, 2012, 09:25 AM   #10
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I'm sorry but I completely see his point. He should do what he wants to do...do you want your OH constantly miserable? Because that's what I'm like with my job. And OH fully supports any decision I make I would really love to become a teacher and completely retrain...the only thing holding me back is me. OH encourages me as he wants me happy. I completely agree with your OH. If he is prepared and willing to put in the hard work it will take good on him...it's just something that will need to be discussed and planned and not just jumped into. You can get a lot of help with him going to university so I wouldn't worry about it. Just ask him to come up with a way he thinks it will work...i'e money and time wise and see if you can see things better with this information on top of his wish to do something else.
But this is the thing, he doesnt have a way around it. He doesnt have an answer to money or anything. And the thing that annoys me the most is I will be constently miserable in morrisons the entire time he trains for this new brilliant idea he has even though he knows that i want to train in midwifery. Ive done my access course im wairting now until I can go to uni. If he goes along with his fantastic plan I will not get to do it until he has a job 6+ years down the line. I think its selfish how he has done it. Ive started my studies supposedly with his support. Now he has decided he wants to also. We cant both do it at the same time thats a simple fact. Ive been wanting to go into midwifery for years, he has just decided he wants to be a pe teacher.
Why can't you both study? I thought pregnant students or students with children got extra support? Help with nursery and what not? Is that not a possibility?


 
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