Stranger danger?! vent - Page 3

deafgal · Apr 6th, 2012, 16:27 PM

I know that family members or someone they know are more likely to hurt a child, but these are the very strangers that any child should be very careful talking to.

MrsHart2b · Apr 6th, 2012, 16:30 PM

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Originally Posted by deafgal

i just wonder why we are getting more sex offenders. everywhere I go, there is always someone who have been molested or going to jail because they offended.

I personally think there isnt necessarily more offenders i think we just hear about it a lot more though the media which makes us think its happening more than what it used to. I get the opinion that it used to happen just as much before but its was more "hushed up". What i find scary is the amount of offenders who are police, lawyers, teachers ect, people used to think offenders were scruffy loners not people who are trusted positions.

MrsHart2b · Apr 6th, 2012, 16:34 PM

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Originally Posted by deafgal

I know that family members or someone they know are more likely to hurt a child, but these are the very strangers that any child should be very careful talking to.

From what i have read, they chose to abuse/harm children they know because the trust is there and they have a chance to groom and get away with it, making it less likely they would do it to just any child. Thats obviously not to say they wouldnt but if these people were to do it to kids they didnt know aswell then i guess the figures would of family/friends and strangers would be the same....... if that makes sense?!

leahtaba · Apr 6th, 2012, 16:34 PM

I don't think kids should be taught to be wary of everyone they meet. I think that could be damaging. Keeping a proper eye on your kids and teaching them caution and common sense is more important. I wouldn't be annoyed if a group of kids approached me outside a school, nor would I be annoyed at my child for doing so, but each to their own!

armywife11 · Apr 6th, 2012, 16:53 PM

I grew up in a small town where I knew almost everyone. Even people I didn't know knew my name and my family. Although it was pretty safe I never went any where alone. So I did talk to strangers but it was always supervised. So that doesn't bother me. The running someone down you don't know just to see the cool "treat" they have does. (Even more there were no adults around watching these kids. Maybe I should have mentioned that.)

I also think they should avoid dogs they don't know because you just don't know their temperament. I am not saying they should be scared of them just that you don't know how they have been handled. - My dog has never bitten anyone but I am pregnant now and he has become more protective. Someone running up behind us could be enough to freak him out.

I am just saying it bothered me. I didn't mean for it to be a debate. I see both sides and I guess I am just a little more extreme on my views of it.

aliss · Apr 6th, 2012, 17:05 PM

MrsHart2b,

I totally agree with you. And quite honestly, so does actual research!

I have worked in law enforcement for over 8 years and the danger lies with our husbands, our brothers, our fathers, our uncles, our 'friendly' neighbours, ourselves (ie. parental kidnapping when it comes to women). Not strangers. Sorry, but that is the reality of the situation.

For example, even today, the vast majority of Amber Alerts are actual parents/relatives who have lost parental rights. True stranger Amber Alerts are extremely rare.

Children, IMO, should be taught to reach out to an adult when they need help. If my son was lost in a store, I would hope he approached someone for help. All too often, young children are too scared and adults afraid to intervene for fear of being thought of as pedos.

deafgal · Apr 6th, 2012, 18:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsHart2b

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Originally Posted by deafgal

i just wonder why we are getting more sex offenders. everywhere I go, there is always someone who have been molested or going to jail because they offended.

I personally think there isnt necessarily more offenders i ythink we just hear about it a lot more though the media which makes us think its happening more than what it used to. I get the opinion that it used to happen just as much before but its was more "hushed up". What i find scary is the amount of offenders who are police, lawyers, teachers ect, people used to think offenders were scruffy loners not people who are trusted positions.

these people are people I knew personally, not from hearing in the media. family and friends. they have these things happening to them. some are by people they don't know well but these offenders have been watching them in the neighbor and such, and some were family members, each were different how it happened. one boy who I rode the bus with had it happened because a stranger promise him to drive him to the store for him when he was walking there (we lived in the rural area)

twickywabbit · Apr 6th, 2012, 18:30 PM

I will be teaching my children stranger danger. Women and men can be pedophiles/criminals and its not right but you cant really trust anyone in this world now. And that is the cold truth. =/

pinklightbulb · Apr 6th, 2012, 18:37 PM

If my sons were lost in a store I will teach them this:
In this order, try to look for a:
Police officer
Store employee
Woman with children
Woman
Man with children
Man

Why? I think the reason is obvious. In terms of safety, anyway.
A cop is there to keep everyone safe.
A store employee isn't exactly going anywhere anytime soon, and if they are, can hand off your lost child to another employee, keeping them in the store.
A strange woman with children has probably got more idea how to comfort a scared/lost child than one without (I know now I am better at things to do with children. I was hopeless before lol.)
A woman is likely to be more comfort to a child anyway, children or not, than a man.
And last on the list are men with children and men by themselves, for the reason above. Not because I think all men are INSTANT PEDOS OMFG!!11!!!, but just because I know my son is more comfortable with women than men and I wouldn't want him to be any more anxious and scared than he already is if he's lost in the first place.

deafgal · Apr 6th, 2012, 18:45 PM

i will teach them their address and phone number. it is ok to ask someone to call their parents for them but never follow them. if they see a neat toys (or they are talking to puppets which toddler love) or cute animals, do not follow them no matter what. and never take candies without permission (sometimes these are drugs - look it up how some drug dealers get kids hooked) or ride with strangers they don't know. I will give a list to my kid know who I trust them riding with.

Apr 6th, 2012, 16:27 PM	#21
deafgal Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,984	I know that family members or someone they know are more likely to hurt a child, but these are the very strangers that any child should be very careful talking to.

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leahtaba Pregnant (Expecting) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,600	I don't think kids should be taught to be wary of everyone they meet. I think that could be damaging. Keeping a proper eye on your kids and teaching them caution and common sense is more important. I wouldn't be annoyed if a group of kids approached me outside a school, nor would I be annoyed at my child for doing so, but each to their own!

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Apr 6th, 2012, 16:53 PM	#25
armywife11 Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: USA Posts: 2,683	I grew up in a small town where I knew almost everyone. Even people I didn't know knew my name and my family. Although it was pretty safe I never went any where alone. So I did talk to strangers but it was always supervised. So that doesn't bother me. The running someone down you don't know just to see the cool "treat" they have does. (Even more there were no adults around watching these kids. Maybe I should have mentioned that.) I also think they should avoid dogs they don't know because you just don't know their temperament. I am not saying they should be scared of them just that you don't know how they have been handled. - My dog has never bitten anyone but I am pregnant now and he has become more protective. Someone running up behind us could be enough to freak him out. I am just saying it bothered me. I didn't mean for it to be a debate. I see both sides and I guess I am just a little more extreme on my views of it.

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Apr 6th, 2012, 17:05 PM	#26
aliss AutoSignup (SAAB) BnB Spammer Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Québec Posts: 24,405	MrsHart2b, I totally agree with you. And quite honestly, so does actual research! I have worked in law enforcement for over 8 years and the danger lies with our husbands, our brothers, our fathers, our uncles, our 'friendly' neighbours, ourselves (ie. parental kidnapping when it comes to women). Not strangers. Sorry, but that is the reality of the situation. For example, even today, the vast majority of Amber Alerts are actual parents/relatives who have lost parental rights. True stranger Amber Alerts are extremely rare. Children, IMO, should be taught to reach out to an adult when they need help. If my son was lost in a store, I would hope he approached someone for help. All too often, young children are too scared and adults afraid to intervene for fear of being thought of as pedos.

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twickywabbit Pregnant (Expecting) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The middle of nowhere, USA Posts: 1,406	I will be teaching my children stranger danger. Women and men can be pedophiles/criminals and its not right but you cant really trust anyone in this world now. And that is the cold truth. =/

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Apr 6th, 2012, 18:37 PM	#29
pinklightbulb Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 6,260	If my sons were lost in a store I will teach them this: In this order, try to look for a: Police officer Store employee Woman with children Woman Man with children Man Why? I think the reason is obvious. In terms of safety, anyway. A cop is there to keep everyone safe. A store employee isn't exactly going anywhere anytime soon, and if they are, can hand off your lost child to another employee, keeping them in the store. A strange woman with children has probably got more idea how to comfort a scared/lost child than one without (I know now I am better at things to do with children. I was hopeless before lol.) A woman is likely to be more comfort to a child anyway, children or not, than a man. And last on the list are men with children and men by themselves, for the reason above. Not because I think all men are INSTANT PEDOS OMFG!!11!!!, but just because I know my son is more comfortable with women than men and I wouldn't want him to be any more anxious and scared than he already is if he's lost in the first place.

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Apr 6th, 2012, 18:45 PM	#30
deafgal Mum (Mom) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,984	i will teach them their address and phone number. it is ok to ask someone to call their parents for them but never follow them. if they see a neat toys (or they are talking to puppets which toddler love) or cute animals, do not follow them no matter what. and never take candies without permission (sometimes these are drugs - look it up how some drug dealers get kids hooked) or ride with strangers they don't know. I will give a list to my kid know who I trust them riding with.

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