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Old May 17th, 2017, 03:22 AM   11
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Oh I remember that dead arm from the first time I had it after DD1 was born, that was surprising.

The problem I'm having with the Tdap is even on the FDA website it says there's no proof that it actually passes immunity to the baby in the womb and the possible effects aren't determined. I'm not an anti-vaccination person at all, DD1 was on a regular schedule of vaccinations and only missed them when sick - but this one has me hitting the breaks and I don't know why so I wanted input from other mamas.
This is exactly why I have declined so far. Just don't feel comfortable with it after a lot of research. I guess it's personal choice. New bubs will get all vaccinations as scheduled though. I'm not against that.

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Old May 17th, 2017, 08:46 AM   12
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Unfortunately, this is a pretty new recommendation (changed about 5 years ago, I believe), and we won't see the outcome of it for several more years since we are the test subjects here. I know what's in these vaccines and the pros and cons of many of them. I have a lot of identifying information on me, so let's say that "someone very close to me" has worked in the vaccine business for 50 years, so I have been exposed to the research, benefits, failures, and business practices for my entire life. I am very careful with them. No, I don't get the Tdap while pregnant. It's considered safe when given every 10 years, and it being administered every 1-5 years (or during pregnancy, for that matter) has NOT been studied. Instead, we're put on a few lists when we get the vaccination during pregnancy (called VAERS and others), and if we share our minor side effects with our doctors (who really does?), then it sometimes gets reported. If something goes wrong with our babies/pregnancies, it sometimes gets reported. That's the "study." Unfortunately, there is a lot of money that gets exchanged to consider a vaccination safer than it is, and to get people to buy more of them than they need, because they are cheap to make and easy to sell. This is true for all drugs/medications, not just vaccinations. I'm not saying freak out and never use a vaccination ever, but read the safety sheets and make the decision that works for you as a parent.

It doesn't frequently cause issues, and it's less likely to have a bad side effect if you've had the vaccination before.



 
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Old May 17th, 2017, 10:33 AM   13
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I've had it this time round, I don't think it was offered the first time I was pregnant (6 years ago) as I wouldn't forget having that done in a hurry!



 
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Old May 17th, 2017, 21:20 PM   14
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This is exactly why I have declined so far. Just don't feel comfortable with it after a lot of research. I guess it's personal choice. New bubs will get all vaccinations as scheduled though. I'm not against that.

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After I read what was on the FDA website to DH he said absolutely not, I feel uncertain of it anyways so I think we will be declining it.

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Unfortunately, this is a pretty new recommendation (changed about 5 years ago, I believe), and we won't see the outcome of it for several more years since we are the test subjects here. I know what's in these vaccines and the pros and cons of many of them. I have a lot of identifying information on me, so let's say that "someone very close to me" has worked in the vaccine business for 50 years, so I have been exposed to the research, benefits, failures, and business practices for my entire life. I am very careful with them. No, I don't get the Tdap while pregnant. It's considered safe when given every 10 years, and it being administered every 1-5 years (or during pregnancy, for that matter) has NOT been studied. Instead, we're put on a few lists when we get the vaccination during pregnancy (called VAERS and others), and if we share our minor side effects with our doctors (who really does?), then it sometimes gets reported. If something goes wrong with our babies/pregnancies, it sometimes gets reported. That's the "study." Unfortunately, there is a lot of money that gets exchanged to consider a vaccination safer than it is, and to get people to buy more of them than they need, because they are cheap to make and easy to sell. This is true for all drugs/medications, not just vaccinations. I'm not saying freak out and never use a vaccination ever, but read the safety sheets and make the decision that works for you as a parent.

It doesn't frequently cause issues, and it's less likely to have a bad side effect if you've had the vaccination before.
Thank you for your input, it's a little scary to think that the effects of the new recommendation of getting it while pregnant really wont be seen for many years.



 
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Old May 17th, 2017, 21:42 PM   15
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I vote do whatever is comfortable. The world was just fine before the tdap vaccine.

I will say that the Journal for American Medicial Assiciation published a study in 2014 done with about 50 pregnant women that showed zero adverse effects on the pregnancies or babies, higher levels of pertussis antibodies in infants than those without the vaccine, and none of the babies developed pertussis. So basically their findings were it is both safe and does what it claims to do (pass antibodies on to infants too young to receive it). Pediatrics of Infectious Disease did a similar study in 2013 showing increased antibodies at birth as well. Science Direct did a study in 2014 showing that getting it done 27-30 weeks is more effective than 30+



 
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Old May 17th, 2017, 22:40 PM   16
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Thank you Dobby, I'll look into those studies



 
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Old May 17th, 2017, 22:51 PM   17
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I do agree though long term effects can't be studied and a few studies here and there is hardly definitive. So you just have to trust your gut.

Also I only read the abstract. Ain't nobody got time to read those medical journals fts I'm not in college anymore



 
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They're so looooong! I'm in my final quarter of college and reading the research needed for my final project I'm always falling asleep



 
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