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dreamofabump Feb 26th, 2017 19:19 PM

I'm back and time is really running out !!!!
Basically tried for 3 years and found out I had pcos. So lost some weight and got prescribe clomid and conceived my dd on the last month of taking. She is now 4. I promised myself I would just be happy with one. But after people always asking when am I having another and she needs a brother or sister. I think thought I would really love another. So had implant removed and after 8 months fell pregnant but sadly lost little bean at 6 weeks. But was happy I got pregnant on my own.
Now that was nearly a year ago and nothing since. Doctor said I can't have any more treatment as I now have a child. Can't afford private. Lost more weight hoping it would help. But me and dh agreed were stop trying when I'm 30. I now have a year left.
Starting to feel low and depressed again like I did before I conceived my daughter. I eat healthy exercise and take supplements.
Is there any thing else I can do???
Sorry to vent just feel lost 😢😢😢😢

broodymrs Feb 26th, 2017 21:16 PM

Advanced maternal age is 36 and over so don't panic about running out of time just yet! Plenty of people do it older than that too.

Are you in the U.K.? As you can still get clomid. We thought we'd need assistance for this one and even though iui and ivf were out due to having a child already, everything else was available (e.g. Clomid). So I'd double check that one.

Personally both times I fell pregnant I followed zita west's plan a from the fertility and conception book. It tells you what vits to have each week (I tried to get them from food and just topped up with a few supplements) and went for weekly acupuncture/reflexology.

lisap2008 Feb 27th, 2017 10:45 AM

At 30 I wouldn't say time is running out for you, AMA is over 35 and many women go on to have healthy babies after that. Also PCOS women have increased fertility as we age and typically have delayed menopause.

GOOD NEWS!! As Women w/ PCOS get Older, Chance of Pregnancy May Get HIGHER!!
Youthful infertility balanced by late-blooming ovaries
04 March 2009 by Aria Pearson
Magazine issue 2697.

YOUNG women with fertility problems caused by polycystic ovary syndrome may have reason to take heart. Over a lifetime their chances of having children appear just as good as other women's, perhaps because egg production increases as they grow older.

About 7 per cent of reproductive-age women have PCOS, which features irregular periods, high levels of male hormones and greater numbers of developing follicles, or cysts, on the surface of their ovaries. In a normal ovary, a few follicles appear each month, one or two of which mature and release an egg; the rest die off. Women with PCOS ovulate less often because their extra follicles interfere with normal hormonal activity and stop follicles maturing past a certain stage. This is how PCOS lowers fertility.

Now it looks like that is not the end of the story. Miriam Hudecova and colleagues at Uppsala University in Sweden interviewed 91 women who were 35 or older and had been diagnosed with PCOS when younger. They found the women had undergone just as many pregnancies and borne as many babies, on average, as PCOS-free women of the same age. Some of the women with PCOS had been treated for infertility, but more than two-thirds had become pregnant without such help.

Hudecova also examined most of the women and found that the ovaries of the older women with PCOS showed signs of being more active, with better hormone levels and more eggs available, than those of control women of the same age (Human Reproduction, DOI: 10.1093/humrep/den482).

"As women with polycystic ovarian syndrome get older the chance of getting pregnant may actually be higher," says Hudecova.

There may be an explanation for this. As women age, fewer follicles are produced each month, and in most this reduces fertility. With PCOS, however, fewer follicles may have the opposite effect: it may stop the hormonal interference and cause follicles to release eggs normally.

The hypothesis is backed up by other studies that have shown that the menstrual cycles of women with PCOS tend to become more regular as they age (Human Reproduction, vol 15, p 24). Marcelle Cedars, a reproductive endocrinologist at the University of California, San Francisco, points out that it also chimes with a recent finding that hormone treatments can coax immature follicles to produce eggs.

"They might hit their reproductive peak a little bit later than other women," says Richard Legro, a gynaecologist at Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center in Hershey, Pennsylvania. "When we see more data to that effect we'll revise what we tell them."

Long-term follow-up of patients with polycystic ovary syndrome: reproductive outcome and ovarian reserve M. Hudecova1, J. Holte, M. Olovsson and I. Sundström Poromaa Department of Women's and Children's Health, Uppsala University 751 85 Uppsala, Sweden 1 Correspondence address. Tel: +46 18 611 57 87; E-mail:
BACKGROUND: The purpose of the present study was to examine long-term reproductive outcome and ovarian reserve in an unselected population of women with polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS). CONCLUSIONS: Most women with PCOS had given birth, and the rate of spontaneous pregnancies was relatively high. Together with the ultrasound findings and the hormonal analyses, this finding could imply that PCOS patients have a good fecundity, and an ovarian reserve possibly superior to women with normal ovaries. METHODS: A total of 91 patients with confirmed PCOS and 87 healthy controls were included in the study. Patients had been diagnosed between 1987 and 1995 and at the time of the follow-up, subjects were 35 years of age or older. RESULTS: Among women who had attempted a pregnancy, 86.7% of PCOS patients and 91.6% of controls had given birth to at least one child. Among PCOS patients who had given birth, 73.6% had done so following a spontaneous conception. Mean ovarian volume and the number of antral follicles in PCOS patients were significantly greater than in control women (P < 0.001, respectively). PCOS patients also had higher serum concentrations of anti-Müllerian hormone and lower follicle-stimulating hormone levels. Key words: polycystic ovary syndrome/long-term follow-up/ovarian reserve/fecundity/anti-Müllerian hormone Submitted on October 15, 2008; resubmitted on November 29, 2008; accepted on December 3, 2008 Hum. Reprod. Advance Access published online on January 24, 2009 Human Reproduction, doi:10.1093/humrep/den482

dreamofabump Feb 27th, 2017 16:06 PM

Thanks for the reply ladies. I only meant time running out as my husband doesn't want anymore from then one. I will look into them idea. Thanks ladies for the time to reply xxxx

lisap2008 Feb 27th, 2017 16:47 PM

Oh sorry I misunderstood.

Here are some natural supplements for treating PCOS:

In a study published in 2007 in Gynecological Endocrinology, 25 women received MYO (4g/day) for six months. The results: 88% of patients had one spontaneous menstrual cycle during treatment, of whom 72% maintained normal ovulatory activity. A total of 10 pregnancies (40% of patients) were obtained.

Raffone et al compared the effects of metformin and MYO in women with PCOS. Sixty women received 1,500 mg/day of metformin, while 60 women received 4 g/day of MYO plus 400 mcg of folic acid. Ovulation was restored in 65% of women treated with MYO vs. 50% in the metformin group. More pregnancies occurred in the MYO group vs. metformin (18% vs. 11%).

A study published in the European Review Medical Pharmacology examined the effects of both forms of inositol in women with PCOS undergoing fertility treatments. One group received 2g of MYO twice daily and a second group with .6g of DCI twice daily. Women who received MYO had better, more mature eggs and more pregnancies than those who took DCI.

improves insulin sensitivity equal to metformin, overall hormone balance lowers testosterone. NAC alone can improve menstrual and ovulation regularity as in the study comparing it to metformin above. Another study combined NAC with l-arginine supplements showing many cases of restored ovulatory cycles. Women with PCOS tend to have higher free radical levels which lowers nitric oxide. Nitric oxide has a positive role in the egg maturation process and ovulation
Through increasing intracellular glutathione levels, NAC can protect egg quality. In an additional study looking at egg quality for IVF cycles, and again in comparison to metformin, women treated with NAC for 6 weeks prior to their fertility treatment showed significantly better egg and embryo quality (14), and hence had higher fertility rates. This is worth considering, especially if you are trying to conceive over age 35 and need additional egg quality support. The therapeutic dosage of NAC in almost all of the published studies is 600 mg 3x daily. If you are significantly overweight, a higher dose, closer to 1000 mg 3x daily may be required to see the benefits.

PCOS & Vitamin D:
Vitamin D receptors have now been identified in almost every tissue and cell in the human body and the Vitamin has been found to be involved in follicle egg maturation and development. In fact, in a small trial study of 13 women with PCOS who were deficient in Vitamin D, normal menstrual cycles resumed within 2 months in 7 of the 9 women who had irregular menstrual cycles when given Vitamin D repletion with calcium therapy (1). Two women even established pregnancies. The authors of the study suggest that abnormalities in calcium balance may be responsible, in part, for the arrested follicular development in women with PCOS and may even contribute to the pathogenesis of the syndrome (1). Vitamin D also plays a key role in glucose regulation, notably in decreasing insulin resistance. Low levels of vitamin D have been negatively correlated with the incidence of type 1 and 2 diabetes.

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