How soon after a failed IVF/ICSI attempt can you start again?

Springflower · Aug 19th, 2010, 13:34 PM

Hello Ladies

I've recently had an unsuccessful IVF with ICSI attempt. I had always thought you had to have two periods before you could try again. I spoke a nurse at my clinic today and she said I may be able to try again after one period.

I would be eager to do this as I was on a very low dose (150 Gonal F) and my body feels completely recovered now. Also work work wise it would be much better timing.

Having said that I don't want to push for this if its not a good idea, obviously I want to give myself the best possible chance of success.

Has anybody tried again so quickly and would you advise againist this?

Thank you!

JaniceT · Aug 19th, 2010, 15:10 PM

I tried after 2 period cycles. I was also on low dossage similar to yours. However was glad I didn't rush it earlier because the body needs to get back to equilibrium internally even if one feel good. Wishing you a successful ICSI!

Springflower · Aug 19th, 2010, 15:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JaniceT

I tried after 2 period cycles. I was also on low dossage similar to yours. However was glad I didn't rush it earlier because the body needs to get back to equilibrium internally even if one feel good. Wishing you a successful ICSI!

Thanks Janice - I love reading your posts, you always give me hope! I love a success story!

Blue12 · Aug 19th, 2010, 22:11 PM

Hey hun,

I was on a very low dose too (125) - and they said that it was possible to go ahead after one af - based on my baseline scan. At my baseline scan there was tons of cysts (left over follicles) so they said based on that it is best not to go ahead with the cycle. I never asked why but felt they were probably right. I found that I had spotting after af for a while and sharp pain of the follicles rupturing (the ones that were left behind). This all could be due to my OHSS - so who knows.

Also when I went for a baseline scan and they found all the "cysts" I also noticed my antral follicle count was very low. Usually mine was about 30-35, during my ivf cycle I had 46 follicles, and my cycle after ivf I had 22 follicles - huge difference. But they said numbers would return to normal in another cycle.

It seems though so many clinics do things a bit differently. If they say it is safe and you feel that it is - go for it!!!

xo

JaniceT · Aug 20th, 2010, 04:45 AM

Thank you, Springflower

Remember to take your folic acid and prenatal vitamins at least a month before your ICSI cycle. All the best to you and may you have your dreams come true!

ANGEL223 · Aug 20th, 2010, 05:59 AM

Hey spring - my clinic are very strict on this - 2 proper/normal afs after the failed cycle af. They claim this to be as much for psychological reasons as psysical.

MummyIwanabe · Aug 20th, 2010, 07:46 AM

Hey spring

My clinic were strict and said 2 natural bleeds then one admin month and to start on 3rd period. They said it wasn't due to emotional or physcial issues it was to do with your eggs needing time to recover. They had evidence and stats that showed that chance of success when trying again so quickly was greatly reduce e.g producing less eggs or less quality.

I'd recommend waiting, hard as that is, it'll be worth it if it works next time

i too was on 150gonal-f xxx

dreams1 · Sep 13th, 2010, 15:10 PM

hi girls.
my hubbi and I have just failed r 1st go at ICSI! Very disappointed. Cant wait to get some questions answered by r consultant.
I've been reading yours threads that say it can be 2-3 periods b4 I can start again.
We have frosties (as u all call em) and I was wondering what is the procedure for us to go again, medication etc???

i would be happy to get some advise, for peace of mind.

take care xx

JaniceT · Sep 14th, 2010, 00:45 AM

dreams1, I'm so sorry your 1st try didn't work. The 1st try is always the hardest, well it was for me.

To prepare for the next ICSI, make sure you get lots of rest and relaxation. Limit the stress. Same with your OH. Cut down on alcohol or stop drinking. Same with smoking if you do. Take prenatal vitamins and folic acid. Your body needs all the right input to prep and create healthy eggs and it takes time even before egg collection. Here's to wishing you sticky beans!!!

Springflower · Sep 14th, 2010, 07:58 AM

Hi Dreams

I thought I would have to wait for 2 periods before I could try again, but when I saw my consultant she suggested we try again after just one which is what I've decided to do.

I didn't have any frosties so am not able to help you there.

Good luck with your next go. All being well after my scan today I should be starting again tonight!

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Springflower Trying to conceive (TTC) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 3,176	How soon after a failed IVF/ICSI attempt can you start again? Hello Ladies I've recently had an unsuccessful IVF with ICSI attempt. I had always thought you had to have two periods before you could try again. I spoke a nurse at my clinic today and she said I may be able to try again after one period. I would be eager to do this as I was on a very low dose (150 Gonal F) and my body feels completely recovered now. Also work work wise it would be much better timing. Having said that I don't want to push for this if its not a good idea, obviously I want to give myself the best possible chance of success. Has anybody tried again so quickly and would you advise againist this? Thank you!

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JaniceT Pregnant (Expecting) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South East Asia Posts: 2,266	I tried after 2 period cycles. I was also on low dossage similar to yours. However was glad I didn't rush it earlier because the body needs to get back to equilibrium internally even if one feel good. Wishing you a successful ICSI!

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Blue12 Pregnant (Expecting) BnB Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,725	Hey hun, I was on a very low dose too (125) - and they said that it was possible to go ahead after one af - based on my baseline scan. At my baseline scan there was tons of cysts (left over follicles) so they said based on that it is best not to go ahead with the cycle. I never asked why but felt they were probably right. I found that I had spotting after af for a while and sharp pain of the follicles rupturing (the ones that were left behind). This all could be due to my OHSS - so who knows. Also when I went for a baseline scan and they found all the "cysts" I also noticed my antral follicle count was very low. Usually mine was about 30-35, during my ivf cycle I had 46 follicles, and my cycle after ivf I had 22 follicles - huge difference. But they said numbers would return to normal in another cycle. It seems though so many clinics do things a bit differently. If they say it is safe and you feel that it is - go for it!!! xo

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JaniceT Pregnant (Expecting) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South East Asia Posts: 2,266	Thank you, Springflower Remember to take your folic acid and prenatal vitamins at least a month before your ICSI cycle. All the best to you and may you have your dreams come true!

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ANGEL223 Trying to conceive (TTC) BnB Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3,785	Hey spring - my clinic are very strict on this - 2 proper/normal afs after the failed cycle af. They claim this to be as much for psychological reasons as psysical.

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MummyIwanabe Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,666	Hey spring My clinic were strict and said 2 natural bleeds then one admin month and to start on 3rd period. They said it wasn't due to emotional or physcial issues it was to do with your eggs needing time to recover. They had evidence and stats that showed that chance of success when trying again so quickly was greatly reduce e.g producing less eggs or less quality. I'd recommend waiting, hard as that is, it'll be worth it if it works next time i too was on 150gonal-f xxx

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dreams1 Trying to conceive (TTC) New BnB member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 2	hi girls. my hubbi and I have just failed r 1st go at ICSI! Very disappointed. Cant wait to get some questions answered by r consultant. I've been reading yours threads that say it can be 2-3 periods b4 I can start again. We have frosties (as u all call em) and I was wondering what is the procedure for us to go again, medication etc??? i would be happy to get some advise, for peace of mind. take care xx

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JaniceT Pregnant (Expecting) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South East Asia Posts: 2,266	dreams1, I'm so sorry your 1st try didn't work. The 1st try is always the hardest, well it was for me. To prepare for the next ICSI, make sure you get lots of rest and relaxation. Limit the stress. Same with your OH. Cut down on alcohol or stop drinking. Same with smoking if you do. Take prenatal vitamins and folic acid. Your body needs all the right input to prep and create healthy eggs and it takes time even before egg collection. Here's to wishing you sticky beans!!!

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Springflower Trying to conceive (TTC) BnB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 3,176	Hi Dreams I thought I would have to wait for 2 periods before I could try again, but when I saw my consultant she suggested we try again after just one which is what I've decided to do. I didn't have any frosties so am not able to help you there. Good luck with your next go. All being well after my scan today I should be starting again tonight!

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