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Hello Ladies,

Here are the results of DH's fourth semen analysis taken on March 16th –

PH – 8.1 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.1 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 42.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 60 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 25
B= Slow or Sluggish = 25
C= Non-Progression = 10
D= Non-Motile = 40
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 2%
Total Motile Sperm – 53.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Normal
Cell Debris – Yes
Cell Clumps – Yes
Agglutination – None
Comment: Poor Morphology

Here are the results of the first semen analysis taken on June 1, 2011 –

PH – 8.3 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.0 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 6.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 50 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 10
B= Slow or Sluggish = 30
C= Non-Progression = 10
D= Non-Motile = 50
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 4%
Total Motile Sperm – 6.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Less Opaque
Cell Debris – No
Cell Clumps – No
Agglutination – None
Comment: Oligozoospermia

Here are the results of the second semen analysis taken on July 15, 2011 –

PH – 8.0 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.0 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 10.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 41 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 10
B= Slow or Sluggish = 22
C= Non-Progression = 9
D= Non-Motile = 59
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 2%
Total Motile Sperm – 8.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Normal
Cell Debris – No
Cell Clumps – No
Agglutination – None

Here are the results of DH's third semen analysis taken on November 15, 2011 –

PH – 8.0 - Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.5 – Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration – 19.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) – 58 – Normal greater than 50%
Progression – Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 26
B= Slow or Sluggish = 21
C= Non-Progression = 11
D= Non-Motile = 42
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms – 3%
Total Motile Sperm – 28.0 – Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes – yes
Viscosity – Normal
Appearance – Less Opaque
Cell Debris – No
Cell Clumps – No
Agglutination – None

This fourth SA has DH and me not knowing how to feel. Should we be happy or sad, but we are definitely confused. Hubby’s PH has been 8.3, 8.0, 8.0, and now 8.1. Why his PH suddenly went back over the normal range, is puzzling.

What really concerns us is the yes for cell debris and cell clumps. He has never shown these in his other 3 SAs. Dear husband and I don’t aren’t even sure what cell debris or cell clumps are. I’ve tried to research this and found that it could be sperm cells.

Each lab reports always contains, "Note: Results may be inaccurate due to the presence of cell clumps, debris, and increased viscosity." Since this report shows debris and clumps, we aren't sure if we should trust his high numbers.

Hubby had a 6 month dental cleaning and check-up done on February 20th and had a cavity filled the next day.

He still takes Fertility Blend, Motility Boost, Count Boost, GNC Ultra Men's Multivitamin, and Fish Oil. I ordered Pycnogenol and Horny Goat Weed and on February 7th, it was delivered. Hubby took his first Horny Goat Weed that same evening and his first Pycnogenol the next morning.

Shortly after we saw our RE on March 16th, the second set of supplements I ordered arrived from GNC. Dear Husband has now added Saw Palmetto and Fiber Gummies to the vitamins and supplements he already takes. Here is the list and the schedule of his vitamins and supplements –

Vitamins Taking As Of March 2012
1. CountBoost For Men (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
2. MotilityBoost For Men (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
3. Fertility Blend For Men (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
4. GNC Pycnogenol 50mg Dietary Supplement (Once A Day – Once In The Morning)
5. GNC Horny Goat Weed Dietary Supplement 600mg Horny Goat Weed/250mg Mama Extract
(Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
6. GNC Saw Palmetto Formula (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
7. Garden Greens Fiber Gummies (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
8. Spring Valley All Natural Regular Strength Fish Oil 1000mg
(Three A Day – Twice In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
9. GNC Mega Men Time Released Caplets Dietary Supplement
(Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)

Have any of you ladies had experience with cell debris and cell clumps in your husband's semen analysis?

Motility and count sound great

Yes my oh had debris and clumping- we use 1000mg vit c which is meant to help semen from clumping together so I would recommend your oh to give this a go if he isnt already??? We will find out if it helped after his next sa when he is requested to do one...

I hope this helps a little?

Hi, Scerena! So good to see you on the board, again.

Hubby takes 300mgs in his GNC Mega Men Multivitamins, 120mgs in his Fertility Blend, and 500mgs in his Count Boost. Looks as if I should put him on separate Vitamin C tablets.

We still can't understand why he suddenly has debris and clumping on his fourth SA and his PH going up, again.

His best morphology was 4% and that was on his first and what was his worst SA. Doesn't make sense.

He started taking the Pycnogenol which is supposed to help improve his morphology. He had been taking it for only a month and 8 days before his last SA. I was hoping we would see more of an increase in his morphology. I guess I should give it 3 months.

Thank you for replying!

Hi Ladies

I hope its ok if I join you, I was so glad to find this thread because I have been looking for somewhere to find a little support. We have been TTC for 19 months now and its been quite a rocky road. I went to my dr after 9 months thinking the problem was with me and she suggested a SA just to check and discovered there is very little chance we will manage this on our own. First SA results:

Volume - 3.5ml
pH - 8
Rapid progressive motility - 45-50%
Sluggish progressive motility - 1-5%
Non progressive motility - 0%
Immotility - 40-45%
Count - 1 million per ml

I find these numbers all so confusing!! But obviously out biggest worry for us is the count. We've been to our local assisted conception unit and had lots of tests carried out and the conclusion was that ICSI is the best option for us. Unfortunately the wait for this is 22 months (!!!) from the time of referral so we're looking at this time in 2013. I'm just not sure how I'm going to get through another year!

I'm hoping you all know where I'm coming from when I say I'm so sad that we're having to deal with this. I can't really speak to DH as I don't want to make him feel any worse than he already does. The few friends that know and that I can talk to just keep telling me to be positive and that they're 100% sure this will work for us. Its so hard because it doesn't leave my mind for a second and everywhere I go I feel there are pregnant woman or babies!!!

I hope you are all having good days today...babydust to everyone xx

Hi lyns

Of course welcome and hope your ok. I know it is so sad to be told that your chances of concieving naturally are small. However there is sperm there and we have to be thankful for that. Your DH's rapid motility is great and a while ago there was someone on this site who conceived naturally and her DH's count was about a million. Your are on the waiting list and in the meantime get your bloke on this vitamins, eat healthy, enjoy sex and you never know. I am also in scotland but my gp wont refer us because we conceived Dec 2011 (miscarried). Pretty rubbish to know that when we do get referred it will be a long wait. Babydust to you xxx

Lyns148,

Welcome to the board!

You may want to have your DH make a dental appointment if he doesn't already go twice a year. It is possible that any bacteria that is causing him problems (or may not be right now) with his teeth is getting into his bloodstream and affecting his sperm count. They call it Bactospermia. My DH had a bad tooth he didn't tell me about. Once it was pulled, three cavities filled, and his teeth cleaned, his count and motility improved greatly.

Dreaminghopin gave you some great advice. Definitely start your husband on vitamins and supplements. My hubby saw great improvement with the vitamins and supplements he's taking -

Vitamins Taking As Of March 2012
1. CountBoost For Men (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
2. MotilityBoost For Men (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
3. Fertility Blend For Men (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
4. GNC Pycnogenol 50mg Dietary Supplement (Once A Day – Once In The Morning)
5. GNC Horny Goat Weed Dietary Supplement 600mg Horny Goat Weed/250mg Mama Extract
(Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
6. GNC Saw Palmetto Formula (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
7. Garden Greens Fiber Gummies (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
8. Spring Valley All Natural Regular Strength Fish Oil 1000mg
(Three A Day – Twice In The Morning/Once In The Evening)
9. GNC Mega Men Time Released Caplets Dietary Supplement
(Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening).

Scerena has encouraged my DH to begin on a separate Vitamin C tablet at 1000mgs. We are going to get some for him soon.

I have been diagnosed with Adult Growth Hormone Deficiency and a "touch" of PCOS. (My older sister had the classic case of PCOS.) All I'm taking right now is a daily shot of growth hormone and GNC Women’s Ultra Mega Time Released Caplets Dietary Supplement (Twice A Day – Once In The Morning/Once In The Evening). I recently read about supplements to take to help counteract some of the problems associated with PCOS. I'm going to start taking Fish Oil, Cinnamon, Chromium Picolinate, Super B-Complex, and Fertility Blend For Women. Hubby is going to take Cinnamon with me because I read that it's an aphrodisiac for men. (His testosterone is on the lower end of normal.)

I have the facial hair growth, weight gain, and high testosterone which comes with PCOS. I've always had a regular period but don't know if I've really been ovulated each month. Last month I started using the ovulation strips from Baby Hopes. I did get what looked as if it might be a positive, but the second line was really as dark as the first line. This month I've gotten anything close.

I completely understand how you feel about seeing so many babies or baby related items all the sudden. Every time we go somewhere, I see so many precious babies. They are always the sweetest chubby cheeked cherubs, too. My heart feels fuller and my arms feel emptier each time.

We're here for you!

Hi,
everyone I'm so relieved that I found this post here. My DH and I have been trying to conceive now for 14months. We've tried preseed, conceive plus, soft cups, temping and I use OPKs to make sure that I am ovulating each month. My cycles are very regular every 26- 28 days. I went to the doctor and got bloods taken and a smear everything came back normal. She requested that my DH get a SA completed. we got the results yesterday.
Volume: 4.6ml
PH 7.9
Sperm Count: 1 million ml semen
Motility 37%
Excellent 2 %
Sluggish 34 %
Non Progressive 14%
Immotile 50 %
It said morphology were unable to assess normal forms due to insufficient sperm numbers.
We know that this is quite bad but were not quite sure how bad. My DH is devastated and we're both very worried. Would anyone be able to look at these results and give me some feedback?
Thanks a million.

Welcome to all newbies!

Hi derryone
I hope you and dh are feeling a bit better.*
I am not an expert but I think anything above 20 million with at least 50% motile is considered ok. *
Is this your dh first sperm report. If so then please arrange for him to do another one as they do vary. My dh's first one had a count of 1 million and second one was 14 million (we bd the night before the first one so that might have affected things). Many on this site have managed to improve count, motility and morphology with vitamins and lifestyle changes (no smoking / alcohol etc). Have u managed to speak to your doc? As you prob know assisted conception has great success *with male factor and the fact that everything seems ok with u is excellent news. We were pretty devastated when we found out in February but my doc won't refer us to fertility clinic because we conceived dec 2011 and wants us to keep trying naturally. Good luck and we are hear for u.*