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Snowglobe21 · Dec 19th, 2011, 13:29 PM

Hi Korinkj and mjemma.

Are there any female factors involved with you too? I have a feeling morphology amplifies female factors as it is already slightly more difficult with a lower morphology so female factors really influence it. From my perusal of the boards, it seems that once female factors are corrected the 4% morph is normal. I can't help but wonder how many dad's that I see have a morph number in that range, but had no idea of it because they concieved right away with a wife free of endo or pcos.

cooch · Dec 19th, 2011, 14:24 PM

That's an interesting take on it Snowglobe. My blocked tube may not be able to be opened and my endo may come back. So I'm looking at DH's count rather than morphology and crossing my fingers big time x

Snowglobe21 · Dec 19th, 2011, 14:38 PM

Hi Cooch!

What count numbers are you working with?

mjemma · Dec 19th, 2011, 14:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowglobe21

Hi Korinkj and mjemma.

Are there any female factors involved with you too? I have a feeling morphology amplifies female factors as it is already slightly more difficult with a lower morphology so female factors really influence it. From my perusal of the boards, it seems that once female factors are corrected the 4% morph is normal. I can't help but wonder how many dad's that I see have a morph number in that range, but had no idea of it because they concieved right away with a wife free of endo or pcos.

Yes, I have PCOS and complications from a cyst removal but am now on a low GI diet and agnus castus to regulate my hormones and having another lap in February to sort out any scar tissue so for the first time in months I'm feeling really positive that we will be able to TTC naturally eventually.

I think you're right, that most people have no idea what their morphology is as they never have to get to all that.

cooch · Dec 19th, 2011, 14:57 PM

The count in 50's and 60's. 50% for motility and we've had 5% and 7% for morpho x

korink26 · Dec 19th, 2011, 15:09 PM

Yes, I've thought a lot of times that probably a lot of men have counts like ours, but their wives were maybe lucky fertile myrtle's so it was never a problem.
I don't know of any female problems, I haven't had a whole lot of testing done though either. She did a blood test which I'm not sure what it checked, I think thyroid and protein levels? Those came back ok, she also did an ultrasound (checking for I'm not sure) and that came back fine as well.
I temp and have a lower temp and seem to spot a couple days before AF comes and my LP is only about 11 days to begin with so I think it's possible I'm not having really good ovulation, even though I am ovulating. This is my first month trying clomid, and I guess if we still have no luck with that, then we know something is really going on with us.
I pray that Clomid does the trick for us though.....
Snowglobe this is such a great thread, thank you for all the time you put into it! I've searched Morphology a lot of times and haven't found anything so informative and hopeful!

Snowglobe21 · Dec 19th, 2011, 15:15 PM

That's great morphology Cooch! You have nothing to worry about their at least.

Snowglobe21 · Dec 19th, 2011, 15:18 PM

Hi Korink. Did your cycles go back to normal right after your miscarriage. I stopped bleeding after 20 days on October 20th and have no sign of a period since except black discharge. Also, from what you've said everything sounds great and hopefully your BFP comes soon and the morph is just slowing it, not an inhibitor which I don't think it is. Also, would u mind sharing what count and motility your working with?

Good luck to mjemma with clomid!

cooch · Dec 19th, 2011, 15:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowglobe21

That's great morphology Cooch! You have nothing to worry about their at least.

Fingers x'd x

Snowglobe21 · Dec 19th, 2011, 15:57 PM

Also, for anyone interested in where their count/motility/morph stands. This is the link to the WHO 2010 guidelines book. Over 200 pages of the techniques used and everything you need to know about SA analysis LOL. Page 225 is the chart I refer to frequently. Also, if anyone has a study they find on the internet they want read about, but can't access it because you have to pay or something. Just send me the title of the study and I will use my academic account to find any info you might want off of it.

http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publication...547789_eng.pdf

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Snowglobe21 Pregnant (Expecting) Active BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 152	Hi Korinkj and mjemma. Are there any female factors involved with you too? I have a feeling morphology amplifies female factors as it is already slightly more difficult with a lower morphology so female factors really influence it. From my perusal of the boards, it seems that once female factors are corrected the 4% morph is normal. I can't help but wonder how many dad's that I see have a morph number in that range, but had no idea of it because they concieved right away with a wife free of endo or pcos.

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cooch Trying to conceive (TTC) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: UK Posts: 1,115	That's an interesting take on it Snowglobe. My blocked tube may not be able to be opened and my endo may come back. So I'm looking at DH's count rather than morphology and crossing my fingers big time x

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Snowglobe21 Pregnant (Expecting) Active BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 152	Hi Cooch! What count numbers are you working with?

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cooch Trying to conceive (TTC) Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: UK Posts: 1,115	The count in 50's and 60's. 50% for motility and we've had 5% and 7% for morpho x

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korink26 Other Chat Happy BnB Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,108	Yes, I've thought a lot of times that probably a lot of men have counts like ours, but their wives were maybe lucky fertile myrtle's so it was never a problem. I don't know of any female problems, I haven't had a whole lot of testing done though either. She did a blood test which I'm not sure what it checked, I think thyroid and protein levels? Those came back ok, she also did an ultrasound (checking for I'm not sure) and that came back fine as well. I temp and have a lower temp and seem to spot a couple days before AF comes and my LP is only about 11 days to begin with so I think it's possible I'm not having really good ovulation, even though I am ovulating. This is my first month trying clomid, and I guess if we still have no luck with that, then we know something is really going on with us. I pray that Clomid does the trick for us though..... Snowglobe this is such a great thread, thank you for all the time you put into it! I've searched Morphology a lot of times and haven't found anything so informative and hopeful!

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Snowglobe21 Pregnant (Expecting) Active BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 152	That's great morphology Cooch! You have nothing to worry about their at least.

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Snowglobe21 Pregnant (Expecting) Active BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 152	Hi Korink. Did your cycles go back to normal right after your miscarriage. I stopped bleeding after 20 days on October 20th and have no sign of a period since except black discharge. Also, from what you've said everything sounds great and hopefully your BFP comes soon and the morph is just slowing it, not an inhibitor which I don't think it is. Also, would u mind sharing what count and motility your working with? Good luck to mjemma with clomid!

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Snowglobe21 Pregnant (Expecting) Active BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 152	Also, for anyone interested in where their count/motility/morph stands. This is the link to the WHO 2010 guidelines book. Over 200 pages of the techniques used and everything you need to know about SA analysis LOL. Page 225 is the chart I refer to frequently. Also, if anyone has a study they find on the internet they want read about, but can't access it because you have to pay or something. Just send me the title of the study and I will use my academic account to find any info you might want off of it. http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publication...547789_eng.pdf

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