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Old Apr 22nd, 2012, 01:39 AM   1
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Low morphology means nothing!


So after 2 months of debating whether to post this thread due to personal conflicts over whether I should override the WHO and research done in the early 2000's, I have finally decided that I need to say something.

When men go in for a semen analysis and are diagnosed with "low sperm morphology" according to the kruger method, I think it should be completely and utterly ignored. I have read every study published on sperm morphology according to the kruger method because I am a university student and can access research studies the general public can't read for free. Most have found that sperm morphology can be very low in males and they can still father children. One study found the average was 3% in males that had fathered children and most found that anything 3% and over was fine.

That being said, a lot of false information is out there. Some doctors (looney's if you ask me) say that 14% is the normal. With the strictness of the kruger method, good luck getting anywhere near that. All I am saying is that my baby's father (husband to be soon) got me pregnant with 3% morphology on his last SA. That was after taking like 20 vitamins which did nothing. So another point of this post is saying, honestly vitamins do nothing and only make people feel like they are doing something better. My hubbies first SA was 4%. If your husband has normal sperm count and motility, I would say to completely ignore the morphology. My fiancee had over 200 million sperm and a high motility and vitality etc, and we have gotten pregnant twice in 15 months while I have PCOS. That shows me morph is not a problem at all and only the female factor is when faced with this. I have found it rare to find people only dealing with morphology as the issue. Typically, the wife has PCOS, Endo, etc or he has low sperm count or motility. I believe those are the real problem and morph just scares people.



 
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Old Apr 22nd, 2012, 09:21 AM   2
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My o/h has had 2 s/as and one came back with 2% morph and the other 2.5% morph but are fertility specialist said there is no concern because of the amount he had and great swimmers. Think it only matters when you have less than 20 million spermies x



 
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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 14:45 PM   3
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actually my OH has low motility (5%) but really high numbers of spermies. his morphology was never brought up by doc as a problem probably because of his 164million count. but lookingt at his morphology now it says normal is 14% and up and he has 7%! he has been taking wellman conception for two weeks... ?
probably won't help huh?
we have been trying on and off for over 2 years.



 
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Old Apr 25th, 2012, 19:29 PM   4
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Hahaha, I told you Snowglobe!



 
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Old Apr 26th, 2012, 12:55 PM   5
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Snowglobe thanks for the post! My oh had low everything! 5 million speem low morph at 1%and motility gave up smoking and now has 22 million, 4% morph and normal motility so it's nice to hear of your research regards the morph ! I too have PCOS



 
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Old Apr 29th, 2012, 08:28 AM   6
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Snowglobe, thanks for the info. My hubby has 0% normal morph, we've been trying for 8 months. My RE, whom we saw last week, said very clearly to us that having 100% abnormal sperm does NOT mean we can't conceive naturally. At first I was delighted to hear this, but have felt so skeptical since... my hubby's counts are fab and motility is good. RE says he has been doing this for 25 years, and he sees it often where ppl with 0%morph will be booked for treatments, and cancel because they fall pregnant. I want to believe him, but still feel like there's such a small chance we'll get our BFP... this helped, to read this. Thank you xo



 
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Old May 1st, 2012, 16:11 PM   7
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what about under 3% though like 1%? still no bfp for us with 1%



 
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Old May 4th, 2012, 10:32 AM   8
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Ladies, I want to update... I got my BFP yesterday after 7-8 months of trying, with a hubby with 100% abnormal morphology (count and motility good). . . so it IS possible, don't give up!



 
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Old May 4th, 2012, 18:02 PM   9
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Ladies, I want to update... I got my BFP yesterday after 7-8 months of trying, with a hubby with 100% abnormal morphology (count and motility good). . . so it IS possible, don't give up!
Maybe it was just a one off bad test though, 7-8 months isn't long at all.



 
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Old May 5th, 2012, 08:15 AM   10
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Ladies, I want to update... I got my BFP yesterday after 7-8 months of trying, with a hubby with 100% abnormal morphology (count and motility good). . . so it IS possible, don't give up!
Maybe it was just a one off bad test though, 7-8 months isn't long at all.
He did two, both 0% normal morph. You're right, 7-8 months isn't long. We saw an RE who told us that 0% normal forms does not mean natural conception is not possible, and he was right. More difficult, but not impossible.



 
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