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Old Jun 9th, 2014, 10:14 AM   1
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anyone with male infertility issues??


hi lovely ladies, hope everybody is well

My hubby and I are on our 11th cycle of TTC number 2, we decided to have some routine tests carried out after our 6th cycle due to being pregnant twice before and it happening really quickly.

Turns out that my husband has a low sperm count (15 mil) and not the greatest motility. My progesterone tests came back as a count of 95 on CD21 so nice and high...

We had an appointment with an infertility specialist a few weeks ago and he wants 2 more sperm analysis tests to be carried out which start in a weeks time. He also requested that we both have ultrasounds to check for any blockages and blood work to be taken.

Of course my mind is filled with anxiety and confusion over what the hell will happen next, is anybody else in a similar situation? what will happen if his counts don't improve but the ultrasounds come back as fine?

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Old Jun 9th, 2014, 11:49 AM   2
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Hi tinadecember!

We have MFI. I'm not sure I can give you much advice as we discovered over a year ago that DH has a low sperm count, motility and morphology and not a lot has happened since....

We are on Cycle 27 and it has been 30 months or 2 1/2 years since we started TTC. We have a 4 year old that we conceived on month 5 of trying so obviously had no idea we would have any issues the second time around. After 2 SA's we discovered DH has a count of 4 million and low motility and morph. He recently went to a urologist who discovered a grade 2 varicocele, however after having an ultra scan decided it wasn't bad enough to warrant surgery. I was totally surprised - first that he had one as no symptoms etc that he had been really aware of before hand but more so after finding it and thinking that was the answer to all of our problems that they weren't going to do surgery. So it seems for the time being we just have to live with things which isn't helpful so DH has started taking Fertilaid for men and the Count Boost and Motility Boost as well. I'm not sure where you live but it might be worth giving them a go if your DH will take them....

Both our GP and the urologist keep telling DH that the main thing is he has sperm so we can get pregnant it's just going to take longer which really frustrates me as I don't see how with a count of 4 million, not to mention it's already been 2 1/2 years!! Anyway he's going to take the vitamins for 3 months and we'll see what happens and in the meantime I am going for a Lap next week to rule out any issues with me. If in about 4 months (and providing all ok with the lap) nothing has happened and I'm still not pregnant then we are going to go and see a FS and just get some honest advice about things and what our options are... I don't think we would do IVF with ICSI but would possible try IUI....

I hope you get some better answers. It's definitely a good idea to get the tests all done just to make sure and who knows maybe somewhere along the way you'll get that BFP! You definitely need to do another SA and 3 is best as they really can vary so much so you never know, the next test might come back with better results..... Other than the vitamins a big thing is eating well, not smoking, drinking moderately to none, loose boxers, no hot baths etc and exercise.....

Sorry I can't give you more advice but here to talk if you want as going though the same thing just further down the road....



 
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Old Jun 10th, 2014, 10:21 AM   3
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Hi whiteorchid

thank you so much for sharing your story. My OHs count is 15mil, our consultant said that it should be 20mil at the least, his motility was 26% and morphology just 5%.

My OH has been taking the fertilaid, motility boost and count boost for about 3 cycles so I guess we will see when he has his SA done whether it's made a difference. I asked our consultant about them because we're spending like £55 each cycle and he said that they won't make a difference and the best thing to take is zinc. But then on the other hand I've read so many good reviews about them.... I suppose all we can do is give them a go. I think when you're at a point where you're so desperate for a child that you will try anything.

I am hoping that if his counts are still low that we will be considered for IUI, is this something that the NHS themselves organise or do you have to do this yourself privately?

I fell pregnant with both of my previous pregnancies within 2 cycles so once we had reached 6 cycles I kinda had a feeling that we were facing some issues this time around. I'm desperate to give my daughter a sibling, it's tough all of the constant waiting

I can't believe that your partner wasn't put forward for surgery!!! if that is what is possibly causing the low sperm count then you would think that the hospital would jump at the chance of removing it. The NHS make me so angry sometimes.

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Old Jun 10th, 2014, 15:28 PM   4
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I totally know what you mean about the Fertilaid but we figured same as you - we've got nothing to lose and as long as he has no side effects then they are worth a go! I'm curious - was the SA that showed he had a count of 15mill before he started taking the FA? If so I'd love to know his results from the next SA to see if it has made a difference at all.... FX it has!

Also 5% morphology is actually fine - anything about 4% is considered normal but yep you're right about the min. count being 20 mill and I think motility is over 40%.... maybe a little higher....

Unfortunately I can't help you with the NHS side of things as I'm in Canada (although originally from the UK so understand all about the NHS). That being said I have heard mixed things. Some ladies have said if you already have 1 child then you are not eligible under the NHS but others are eligible which I think comes down to a completely random post code lottery..... I hope for your sake you are eligible for help but it would definitely be worth talking to your Doc about it.

The waiting is by far one of the hardest most frustrating parts to deal with..... so much disappointment month after month. I was the same as you - I honestly expected to get our BFP on the first month of trying as I have lots of ovulation symptoms so can pin point the day pretty accurately so when it didn't happen within the first few months deep down I knew something was up. Funnily enough though I assumed the issue would be with me not DH..... who knows there might be an issue with me as well - will know more in a week!

As for DH's varicocele yeah I'm still pretty disappointed and confused but I have to trust the urologist. That being said I totally agree with what you are saying - you would think considering the situation and the fact that he knows we have been trying for 2 1/2 years and DH has such a low count that they would fix it to at least see if it helps...... Grrrr it still makes me mad! I guess it's not just the NHS that are frustrating!!



 
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Old Jun 11th, 2014, 08:56 AM   5
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Hi there

My hubby had a vasectomy 4 years ago, and did a reversal last year. With the whole story my hubbys sperm developed antibodies, and their mobility is not so great.

We went to a fertility specialist, and advised us on IUI, we did our first try in May, but wasn’t successful, we are in the process of our second one, insemination will be taking place next week- and then the tww 



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Old Jun 11th, 2014, 09:47 AM   6
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Hi girls,

whiteorchid - My OHs sperm count was 15mil before he started taking the fertilaid, we haven't had another analysis yet so I can't wait to see if it's made a difference. He was also going through a tonne of stress after losing his father to cancer in January so maybe that contributed to it being low but then if that was the case you'd think we would have conceived by now.. enough speculating! Only time will tell, 5 days and counting until his next analysis!

So are you getting an ultrasound done in a weeks time? I'm waiting for an appointment to go and get an ultrasound on my tubes/ovaries. I expect everything is okay because like you I feel ovulation every month.

Jackie - Are you in the UK? I expect you have other children if your husband had a vasectomy? Just curious due to you being offered IUI what your circumstances are. Sending you tonnes of good luck for your next cycle xx



 
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Old Jun 11th, 2014, 10:59 AM   7
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Oh I am so hoping there has been an increase!! FX for you

No not an ultra scan but a laparoscopy which is surgery..... Not looking forward to it to be honest but need to get it done. Oddly I haven't had a scan at all - which I would have expected but hey-ho. I've had Day 21 blood work done (over a year ago) which was good then last month I had a HSG which was inconclusive as seems I have a tilted uterus and she couldn't get the catheter in properly so couldn't get the dye to go through the right tube but I have been having random pains - mostly on my right side - so think it's about time I get the Lap done to check things....



 
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Old Jun 12th, 2014, 02:44 AM   8
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Hi Tina,

no i am in South Africa - Cape Town
My hubby had a son by prev.wife and i had a son aswell. this will be our first together.
his body kills his sperm and causes it not to be that moble, so it never reaches my eggs .. hence the IUI is offered



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Old Jun 12th, 2014, 10:09 AM   9
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Hi girls,

Whiteorchid, strange that they have never given you an ultrasound! I had a laparoscopy about 5 years ago. I had a molar pregnancy which is where a baby never grows but instead cancerous cells so the only option was to remove it by a laparoscopy. You'll be just fine, your lower stomach will be a bit tender for a few days afterwards but apart from that there aren't any major side effects. Still though sending you good luck.
Believe it or not about an hour after mentioning going for an ultrasound yesterday I had a phonecall to arrange an appointment. I'm going on Monday morning so crossing my fingers that everything comes back okay

Jackie, sorry to hear about the whole sperm thing! How did you come to find out that you were killing his sperms before they even had a chance to reach the egg? xx



 
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Old Jun 12th, 2014, 11:00 AM   10
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Sorry Jacki - somehow I missed your post! Good luck with the IUI this month - I really hope this is it

Tina - thanks so much! That's great about your ultrasound, I hope all is ok!



 
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