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Old Jun 21st, 2012, 13:43 PM   1
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Applying for a passport in UK


Do you need to know the dad's passport number and date and place of issue?
If you don't know these details, what can you do to get a passport?
If you have his birth certificate and he's on your child's birth certificate shouldn't that be enough?
Also does he need to sign the passport application (we have never been married and I have sole custody in Sweden).



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Old Jun 21st, 2012, 15:40 PM   2
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I can answer about the UK father's passport at least. I wrote a letter accompanying mine that I was unable to get my father's passport number because we were estranged. The birth registration with him listed as the father and proof of marriage was adequate (I think that law concerning legitimacy has changed for children born recently).

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Old Jun 21st, 2012, 16:35 PM   3
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Thanks for replying.
We were never married. The only thing I have to prove he is my daughter's dad and she is entitled to UK passport is her birth certificate naming both him and me, and then I also have his birth certificate.
I did find the passport website but I did not understand everything of it and I am just so sad for my daughter's sake now if she won't be able to get UK passport because of FOB being an asshole and won't even help his own blood...



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Old Jun 21st, 2012, 16:48 PM   4
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I'm not a single parent, but i think i can help with this - I am british but husband is not. When I applied for my first daughters passport 3 yrs ago, i needed my husbands passport number and some info on his family.
Did you download the application form off the website? Which part do you not understand? what is your status in the uk if you dont mind my asking?

also, only one parent is required to sign, and you will also require someone unrelated to you who has known you a set number of years in a professional job or a teacher or doctor to also sign the form.



 
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Thanks for replying.
We were never married. The only thing I have to prove he is my daughter's dad and she is entitled to UK passport is her birth certificate naming both him and me, and then I also have his birth certificate.
I did find the passport website but I did not understand everything of it and I am just so sad for my daughter's sake now if she won't be able to get UK passport because of FOB being an asshole and won't even help his own blood...
If the child was born after 2006 then it is ok to not have been married.

If the child was born before 2006, the child is not a UK citizen.

To file you'll need:

If the child was born outside the UK
IPS needs to see the child's full birth certificate* showing parents' details and one of the following:

section 4 of the application form completed with the British passport details for either parent**

UK birth certificate for either parent**

Home Office certificate of registration or naturalisation for either parent**

the passport that was valid at the time of the child's birth for either parent**

Note*: if the child has a birth certificate issued by a British consulate or high commission, you do not need to send any other documents.
Note**: if you are sending the father's documents, you also must send the parents' marriage certificate if the child was born before 1 July 2006.


I was able to obtain my father's birth certificate from the online records request. Was your child registered at birth at the UK embassy? That alone would be the only document that you would need.



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Old Jun 21st, 2012, 16:58 PM   6
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Oh no I do not have his passport number and neither will he give the details to me.
Does this mean my child will be denied a UK passport because her "dad" is a genuine asshole?



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Thanks for replying.
We were never married. The only thing I have to prove he is my daughter's dad and she is entitled to UK passport is her birth certificate naming both him and me, and then I also have his birth certificate.
I did find the passport website but I did not understand everything of it and I am just so sad for my daughter's sake now if she won't be able to get UK passport because of FOB being an asshole and won't even help his own blood...
If the child was born after 2006 then it is ok to not have been married.

If the child was born before 2006, the child is not a UK citizen.

To file you'll need:

If the child was born outside the UK
IPS needs to see the child's full birth certificate* showing parents' details and one of the following:

section 4 of the application form completed with the British passport details for either parent**

UK birth certificate for either parent**

Home Office certificate of registration or naturalisation for either parent**

the passport that was valid at the time of the child's birth for either parent**

Note*: if the child has a birth certificate issued by a British consulate or high commission, you do not need to send any other documents.
Note**: if you are sending the father's documents, you also must send the parents' marriage certificate if the child was born before 1 July 2006.


I was able to obtain my father's birth certificate from the online records request. Was your child registered at birth at the UK embassy? That alone would be the only document that you would need.
She has been registered as a UK citizen at the embassy in Stockholm. I can order her a birthcertificate any time however this form here scares the crap out of me: http://centralcontent.fco.gov.uk/res...fs/form-c2.pdf

And the guidance pdf saying passport will be denied if passport details aren't held (if I understood it correctly?):http://centralcontent.fco.gov.uk/res...2-walkthru.pdf

"Make sure alldetails of your father are provided here, including British Passport details if held
NOTE: Child applicants claim through their parents so without these details a passport will not be issued
If applicable this section must be completed
SECTION 2"



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I don't know... can you try writing a letter explaining your situation as Gunnhilde above mentioned?

good luck



 
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Old Jun 21st, 2012, 17:10 PM   9
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your child is entitled to one based on these two articles : ww.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Passports/Applyingforaneworrenewedchildpassport/DG_174105
and http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...port/DG_174145

and quote:
*A note on fathers

Until July 2006, unmarried British fathers could not pass on their British nationality.

If you were born before then, your father’s British nationality will pass to you only if he was married to your mother. It does not matter if they were married before or after you were born.



 
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Old Jun 21st, 2012, 17:14 PM   10
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your child is entitled to one based on these two articles : ww.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Passports/Applyingforaneworrenewedchildpassport/DG_174105
and http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...port/DG_174145

and quote:
*A note on fathers

Until July 2006, unmarried British fathers could not pass on their British nationality.

If you were born before then, your father’s British nationality will pass to you only if he was married to your mother. It does not matter if they were married before or after you were born.


Also, you would be using the 'first passport form'
Thank you, what worries me is that they (look under section 2) write "Make sure alldetails of your father are provided here, including British Passport details if held
NOTE: Child applicants claim through their parents so without these details a passport will not be issued
If applicable this section must be completed"

And I do not have FOB's passport details and they write "NOTE: Child applicants claim through their parents so without these details a passport will not be issued".
Am I right to be worried?
Is there no protection at all for children with asshole-fathers?



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