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Old Apr 1st, 2017, 02:29 AM   31
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Smurff: That's good your daughter has started saying some sentences, what techniques do you think helped her to start talking more? Was the speech therapists helpful?

I think with my daughter only being 2 and half still and at playgroup that maybe people thinking this chewing thing is still because of her age and there isn't as many dangers at all what she could chew there.

Can I ask how you both have dealt with toilet training? We haven't attempted to start yet because of no communication from her would prove quite difficult.



 
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Old Apr 1st, 2017, 04:07 AM   32
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My daughter started speech therapy at at 2 years old but the speech therapist thought she needed more intense help and recommended us to a child development clinic which she went to 3 mornings a week and then her nursary 2 mornings a week. The child development clinic was a class of 6 children to 3 teachers so more one to one help and instead of seeing her speech therapist once every 6 wks she got her very own speech therapist and seen her once a week. Now with her being in her special class at school alot of the children need help with speech so a theripst goes in school once a week also, plus some of the kids understand she has a delay and they help her with words and all the teachers and learning assistants she's with everyday are also trained to help with speech. Her brother who's nearly 3 also helps her, the other day we were walking home from school and he stopped and stood in front of her her and kept saying we're home we're home and he wouldn't stop saying it till she repeated it back, when she did he gave her a hug and said well done you said it!!!, I was so proud of him and he's a big help.
As for toilet training this is where i need help!, My daughter isn't toilet trained and in pull ups. They are special pull ups for her age that look like pants and after a certain age you are entitled to free pull ups. We tried pottys and toilets but she hated them and got upset so we left it, when she was 3 we tried again but she was still screaming and getting upset. We even tried cold turkey but she held herself for over 5 hrs and we couldn't push it anymore as that's dangerous. In the last few months she has started to sit on the toilet in school which is a massive step forward, (they have Thier own private toilet and shower that's just off thier classroom and it's just for them), her brother is potty training now so we're hoping she'll try to copy him . We'll probably wait till warmer weather and try letting her run round with no pull up on but she's very private and doesn't like not having pull up on so we'll see. Her teachers in school are also helping aswell



 
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Old Apr 1st, 2017, 04:10 AM   33
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The danger thing is probably what concerns me the most. Our son has more awareness than our daughter but he hasn't any awareness of say, stranger danger, for example. I taught him about road safety as best I can, he knows to wait for the green man and stuff, although I don't know if he is aware of quite how dangerous cars can be. But our daughter literally hasn't any awareness. It's completely lost on her.

We haven't toilet trained them because they don't communicate to a level where they understand. We have tried, but it's still lost on them! Hoping this will change soon though.
Speech & language are amazing. In fact, I wish we were still having sessions with them because I felt more confident with their support. I guess because they spend so much time doing this, since it's their job, they have this wonderful way of tapping into how your child will learn best



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Old Apr 1st, 2017, 07:18 AM   34
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Smurff: that sounds good that your daughter was referred to the child development centre, I think something like this would be great for my little girl but I'm not sure of what resources are available yet in my area.
Awww that is lovely of your little boy, how clever he is to think to do that to help his sister

Happycupcake: How long ago did the speech therapist sessions finish for your children? Are they only for a set age that they can come?



 
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Old Apr 1st, 2017, 14:43 PM   35
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I don't know, they seem to refer them around nursery age though and I would assume the main reason is probably parent concerns being confirmed by nursery since most children attend nursery. It's quickly flagged up in many cases.
They saw our children for about three sessions each, I don't know if they will have anymore. Will ask the paediatrician when we see him next. I think our daughter will probably see them more at some point because she didn't cotton onto things as well as her brother, who is almost a year older.
They didn't see my eldest since he was already a teenager when he was diagnosed. He wasn't seen before because everyone I expressed my concerns to shrugged it off



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Old Apr 2nd, 2017, 03:09 AM   36
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3 times doesn't seem many, hopefully paediatrician will say they will get more. Do they see the paediatrician that often?

That must of been tough with your son them not taking your concerns seriously. Do you mind me asking is your son classed as high functioning?



 
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Old Apr 2nd, 2017, 05:27 AM   37
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I know this is what I'm thinking, so I'm hoping they will have more sessions in time. We see the paediatrician every six months ish, so isn't frequently but then I don't know what else he does except for assess the current situation and refer accordingly, so I guess we don't have any reason to see him more? I don't know. It's probably slightly different in different areas though.

My eldest is diagnosed with an ASD with Asperger's traits, like I am. They explained this as high functioning. I suspect our daughter will be similar, but I think our youngest son is different. He and my eldest at the same ages are worlds away. We didn't have any issues toilet training him, and his speech was fine except for pronouncing certain words. He wasn't behind in any of his milestones so it didn't flag up for us right away. He was fussy with foods from an early age but there wasn't anything else until he was a little older and started to become obsessive with things, then there were issues with sensory things between nursery and infants which started concerns for us.
With our youngest son he hit certain milestones fine, like sitting up, crawling, walking etc. these were all fine, but his speech was the first thing we saw. He wasn't hugely interested in toys or imaginative play and didn't bother with other children. He doesn't currently as well. But our daughter is different, she does enagage in imaginative play for example, which is good. She hit most milestones ok except for speech and was behind with sitting unaided and eating solids (she refused until she was about 8/9 months). However both of them don't communicate efficiently and this leads to other issues like toilet training and understanding danger etc.



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A few days ago my son's nursary pulled me to one side and said they are referring him to speech therapy, I've was shocked and upset and thought I'd failed both my children in some way as they both now have probs with speech and I'm also getting a horrible niggly feeling that my son will be on the spectrum, it's strange because at home he speaks ok, i can have conversations with him i can ask questions and he answers, his speech is clear he understands instructions and can carry out tasks i ask him to do. Since starting nursary he's gone from about 50 words to about 100-150. But in nursary he doesn't speak, they have only heard say about 3 words, doesn't interact at all. I'm hoping it's just because he's shy. He is the most fussiest eater I've ever seen, i think in the last few months he's eaten a meal I've put infront of him about 5 times. He hit all his milestones on time, does imaginative play aswell. I explained to the nursary that his sister doesn't interact very much so really my son hasn't had anyone to play with which could be why he's behind.
Just can't shake this nagging worry though, don't get me wrong if he is then he is, it won't change anything and we'll deal with it just like we have with his sister but i never thought there'd be a chance I'd have to go through it again with my son.



 
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Old Apr 3rd, 2017, 04:41 AM   39
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Smurff, your son certainly doesn't sound behind. I think this sounds more like he's adjusting to life at nursery which is rather different from home! At home he's in his little comfort zone, as we all are, and like every single person on the planet we alter how we are when put in different situations because we have to. It's instinct. I mean, you wouldn't be the same at home at school or your job or on a night out with friends, would you? So logically, it makes perfect sense he would behave differently at nursery. This may last the whole time, or it may be until he finds his feet properly there. He's in with a bunch of people he doesn't know properly and hasn't had a chance to build trust with, he is out of his safety zone. You remember your first day at school? Most people felt a little frightened, apprehensive, until they found their place there. It isn't any different for your son.
To me, it sounds as if he's doing fabulously! Also bear in mind that some children aren't cut out for nursery/school and generally feel out of place there. It doesn't mean eventually they won't feel more confident, but it can take longer than some. Some children are by nature more confident in these situations but I would think most children are more shy.
You haven't failed your children anyway, if you had failed then you wouldn't be posting



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Old Apr 3rd, 2017, 09:08 AM   40
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Happycupcake: your younger son sounds like my daughter with the speech, doesn't play with toys or imaginary play. The only thing is she will like to sort of play rough play sometimes with our eldest daughter but that's the only time she'll play at all with anyone is like that.
I'm sorry if you have already mentioned this but how old is your youngest son? Has he not been given a diagnosis of high or low functioning yet?

Smurff: I totally agree with happycupcake, your son doesn't sound behind. My eldest was referred to speech and language and had a few sessions and they were even trying to say that she might have to go to a special school or class which I thought was a joke because she hadn't even seen a paediatrician once only a speech therapists and health visitor. There wasn't anything wrong though, all she did was talk fast and other people other than me and hubby couldn't always understand her. She's fine now, can still talk fast at times but no issues at all. I think a lot of children are get a bit of help from speech and language these days I think because when we were viewing my youngest daughters playgroup they said that a few that attend have a speech therapists coming in.
I echo that you have definitely not failed your children, you sound like you are doing a great job to me

We have finally got an appointment for my daughter's speech and language therapist, it went to our new address which we haven't properly moved into yet, so only seen it yesterday, it's for 28th April so not too far off.



 
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