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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 13:26 PM   1
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lip tie / attached upper lip frenulum


Hi everybody I wonder if you could help me in a matter I have regarding my daughter who is sixteen months old. I noticed only yesterday that she has a large and rather thick piece of skin coming between her two front teeth and Is attached to her top lip. you may think I should have noticed this before, but even tho I often look in her mouth I must have missed this, and boy, do I feel awful! I now need to think about how I go further with this. we are currently in the process of sorting private family healthcare as a bonus through my husbands work, so do I wait for this (could be up to a month before we could start her cover and are able to process a claim) so we can have the skin lasered and stop any complications that the lip tie can cause ie gap in teeth and problems with speech etc or go to our gp on Monday and see what he says. most say just to leave it and repair the gap with braces later on.

does anybody have any experience with this condition, and what do you think I should do. I just want to do the best for my daughter.



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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 13:58 PM   2
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Clara has this and both her pediatrician and my dentist have told me that unless it's causing some obvious issues (like with nursing/taking a bottle or speech delays) they wait until the baby teeth have fallen out and the adult teeth are coming in to see if there is an issue. Often times a child with this will fall at some point and hit their mouth and it will tear/cut on it's own (ouch!). If you haven't noticed it until now, odds are your lo is fine and I would just mention it when you do take her to the doctor next time.



 
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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 14:46 PM   3
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Ruby has this and all I know about it is the above! We only noticed it recently and explains why she couldn't latch on to BF.



 
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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 14:57 PM   4
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Roo has this as well, and like Claire, I only learned about it recently. Again, I think it has a lot to do with the awful latch issues we had. I find it amazing that tongue tie is mentioned so often, but this just isn't heard of? I believe it's called a maxillary frenulum tie (or something like that), but don't quote me on the exact words

I'm almost certain that I had it when I was a child too. I always had a gap between my front teeth. Although it has receded somewhat (in that it doesn't attach to my gum between my teeth anymore), I do still have a much more attached/lower frenulum than (for example) my husband.

It's something I'll be looking out for with this next baby, and I'll be asking the HV and dentist about it for Roo when she next goes.



 
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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 15:00 PM   5
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Yeah, I'm going to seek out some advice when I'm in my 3rd trimester I think, as to what can be done if LO as the same issue. I'm so hoping not though! Ruby couldn't latch at all.



 
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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 15:21 PM   6
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My lo has this too. Also caused latching issues. He also had a posterior tongue tie - I wonder if they're related and whether it's also worth checking for in a newborn?

Sorry if a bit off topic.

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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 17:44 PM   7
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I guess I'm lucky that it didn't interfere with Clara's ability to latch. I didn't notice it with Clara until she had her top teeth, so around 6 months or so old.



 
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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 19:48 PM   8
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Ruby has a super well attached upper lip frenulum, and also couldnt latch! she was checked for tongue tie lots but never that, and i ended up pumping for a year as a result!

my dentist confirmed that they just leave it until they are around 12, and its dealt with at that point if any ortho work is being done. interestingly, i also had this, couldnt latch, and had mine cut at 12!!!



 
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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 20:00 PM   9
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Lip tie and posterior tongue tie are linked, in fact that's one of the more visible ways to check for PTT.
If it's not causing issues with front teeth I wouldn't worry about it for now. it's unlikely to cause speech issues. If it does cause a front tooth gap your best bet is to try and have it dealt with before adult teeth come in-having it done then is likely to be much cheaper than braces! A laser dentist should be able to sort you out for that.
Mine has an upper lip tie and I was worried it was going to give her a tooth gap, but it didn't, so, at some point when she's older I'll have her posterior tongue tie corrected (as mine causes me to suck air into my stomach resulting in gas).
This is an excellent website
http://www.kiddsteeth.com/dental_topics.html
And a slideshow on lip tie:
http://www.kiddsteeth.com/articles/M...6adobenews.pdf



 
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Old Aug 20th, 2011, 20:26 PM   10
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Hmmm that's interesting bky because Clara does have a gap between her front two teeth and I've been told that they leave it until the adult teeth come in. I guess unless I change pediatricians or dentists, that's what I'm going to have to live with and hope she won't need braces.



 
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