gflady - do not do soy and clomid together, they will counteract each other! And soy isoflavones aren't really like regular soy where you could just consistently add it to your diet, actually studies have shown that increasing your soy intake throughout your cycle can impair your fertility. The soy isos are very specifically used, and only for certain days of your cycle.

Cancerlib, the soy isos were fine when I took them last month, no side effects, but I didn't have any bloodwork done during that cycle. I liked them because it brought my O date forward, and because I could feel it working, I had O pains for several days before I o'd, it made me feel like I could really feel some nice big ol eggs ripening in there! And it was a very defined moment when I o'd, and I could tell I o'd from both sides. Obviously no BFP, so I can't officially say it "worked", but I am really thinking I might secretly swap out the clomid for soy for this IUI cycle.

Good luck with whichever way you decide, do your research and let us know what you go with!!!

okkkk good luck i hope you get your bfp

pls ask your doctor before you do that you might get neg results i'm scared of trying clomid alone cuz i'm afraid of the side effects

Thanks Rocco, I had no idea! Gosh. Lucky I'm not on clomid. At least I'll know now if I do end up going on clomid. x

I ovulate on my own but i want to use either one hoping for definite bfp ... i also want to use soy cuz clomid dry up the area down there whereas soy wouldn't according to peoples experience

i was thinking of trying soy isos, up untill i get clomid.
you say you just take the soy isos on certain days. what dates are they?
i just wanna make sure i do it right

Thanx so much. Whatever I find out I'll definitely post here.

If you've been surfing TTC boards online recently, you've probably run across several posts from women proclaiming the mighty power of "Soy Isoflavones." If not, you are probably thinking "Soy Isowhat?" Yes, my TTC friends, the underpriviledged step sister to the infamous Clomid pill has made her big stage debut... and she's garnering some impressive reviews. But before you stop reading the rest of this article and burn rubber to the nearest vitamin store, let me encourage you to research it for yourself before trying any new supplement regimen. (And as always, you should consult your doctor trying anything new.) But I digress...

"Soy Isoflavones" is a natural plant derived phytoestrogen (phyto means plant), which is an anti-estrogen, just like Clomid. Both are known as SERMs (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators). It works by fooling your brain into thinking its estrogen levels are low. This causes your body to reslease more FSH & LH which helps stimulate follicle production (same as Clomid). You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on CD 1-5 or 2-6, or 3-7 or 5-9. It is not thought to cause infertility if it is only taken for 5 days a month. There is not much published information available on it regarding TTC, because it is "natural", not patented by the pharmaceutical companies, and not FDA approved. Most doctors will also not recommend it for this reason.

Recently, many women on FertilityFriend.com have been taking 150-160mg a day for 5 days at the beginning of the menstrual cycle (on days previously mentioned). Side effects reported are similar to Clomid. These vary from increased number of headaches to hot flashes. It has been suggested that taking the dosage before bedtime lessens the side effects.

I was doing some research on FertilityFriend.com to uncover just how many girls have recently conceived while on Soy Isoflavones and what days they took the supplement. I found a girl who took it on CD 1-5, 200mg Soy Isoflavones, and she got a strong BFP at 15dpo that cycle. Her chart can be viewed here. Her HCG levels at 15dpo were 443 and at 18dpo HCG 1,347. Impressive. I found a survey on FF that was interesting as well:



What was interesting is that 75% of the women who tried Soy Isoflavones got a BFP in their FIRST cycle trying. I checked the survey more recently and the number has jumped to 77% since I took the screenshot.

While Soy Isoflavones can help bring on an earlier or stronger Ovulation for these women, I must note that in some women it did not help at all. Just like Clomid doesn't always work for everyone. Right now there are a lot more women trying Soy Isoflavones so I will continue to monitor their progress and report back any news I find.

You can buy a bottle of Soy Isoflavones at any health food store or even Wal-mart. At Wal-mart, it costs under $7 USD for one bottle. Pretty affordable, huh?


Hope this helps, got it off a TTC board.
GL

i read alot of good stuff on soy which i think i'm going to order it if af shows up!!! i feel desperate as i don't feel any sign of O only two months ago my O was 27 on cd21. what could be wrong? am i ovulating on different day this cycle? i usually ovulate on cd13 but nothing yeh