my consultant has just recommended DHEA after 1 failed IUI; 1 failed IVF and 1 failed ICSI. He told me to start taking it now while i decide if I can afford any more treatment. Do any of you know if it helps natural conception or only through IVF?
I am taking it as it helps with adrenal fatigue.
I think sometimes docs perscribe mega doses to take 3 months before IVF. The large amounts cannot be taken very long.
In my research too much can cause problems - so around 10/25 per day or every other day if you are low is a safe dose.
You should get your levels checked first.
Some people have too much (pcos)
But if you are low then DHEA can give you a energy boost and help improve egg quality.
I am hoping that is what it does for me - I have noticed the improved energy levels - hope my eggs are helped as well
I am taking 25 every other day - everyday was too much for me.
My RE recommended I start DHEA if this cycle does not work. (Currently CD12 with IUI in 2 days - but only one mature follie).
I agree that it is very important to check your levels first - TEstosterone and DHEA. If they are low then DHEA sounds like a miracle drug....if they are high (usually in PCOS cases) then not a good idea as you can suffer side effects...
Anyway...here is information that my RE forwarded to me....hope it helps.
DHEA Beneficial Effects
The investigators at CHR have been using the mild male hormone dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA now for a number of years very successfully in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR), whether their ovarian impairment is due to advanced age or premature ovarian aging (POA). In doing so, we have been able to demonstrate that in such women DHEA supplementation has quite remarkable beneficial effects (see Table 1), which all can be summarized as rejuvenating ovarian function.
Table 1: EFFECTS OF DHEA IN WOMEN WITH DOR Increases egg (oocyte) and embryo counts
Improves egg and embryo quality
Increases number of embryos available for embryo transfer
Increases euploid (chromosomally normal) embryos available
Speeds up time to pregnancy in fertility treatment
Increases spontaneously conceived pregnancies
Improves IVF pregnancy rates
Improves cumulative pregnancy rates in patients under treatment
Decreases spontaneous miscarriage rates
likely reduces aneuploidy (chromosomal abnormalities ) in embryos
Table 2: POSITIVE SIDE EFFECTS OF DHEA Improved overall feeling
Improved sex drive
During all that time of DHEA use at CHR, we have carefully monitored side effects of the medication and have been impressed by how rarely even the most common side effects, such as oily skin, acne and hair loss, seem to occur.
We, however, have been even more surprised that quite often what we really heard were anything but side effects; indeed, many more patients than complained about side effects, commented to us how much better overall DHEA supplementation makes them feel. Table 2 summarizes some of the specifics.
Now comes a study, reported in the prestigious Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism (Davis et al. 2008; 93:801-8), in which investigators from Australia report that DHEA appears to improve cognitive functions in women. Specifically, they noted that higher endogenous DHEA levels are independently and favorably associated with executive function, concentration and working memory. It seems our patients knew all along what they were talking about!
I have actually done a ton of research myself on the web and if levels are checked out first, and it is determined that you can benefit from his medication, it can improve chances by as much as 25% each month.
I will be going ahead with it if this cycle proves to be a bust!
Sorry to crash the thread in wa way, but I took DHEA by mistake (Zita West suggested DHA, NOT DHEA lol) and after 1 week I bled like a stuck pig for 10 days...didn't know I was taking the wrong thing and that it was a hormone.
I started it around CD10 until CD18 when I bled....I had ovulated and was confused as to what it could be.....is DHEA really this powerful? I meant to take DHA in prep for IVF along with CO-Q10, L-Arginine, Omega oils, prenatals....I don't have other issues....the IVF is for male factor.
Opps - yeah DHA - I think is in fish oil....or some such.
DHEA can be powerful if you dose more than needed. From what I understand - average levels are around 10/15 in women in their 20's - in men it is higher. Levels decrease with age. Too much and you are geting too much of a hormone and I imagine it can do wacky things to you. Have heard of hair loss from the head and hair growth on the face.
There is a linit to how long you can mega dose for - but be careful - you really need to need it. If your levels are normal it can interfere with other hormones like Estrogen.
It was only like 25 or 50mg a day....don't know what the mega dose is? Hope my hair doesn't fall out lol! I am 35, but don't know what my levels are. Strange. Birth control pills did the same thing to me also in the past. Thanks for your answer.
Don't worry if you only took it a few times - your hair would have fallen out if it was going to by now
I have seen people write, that their docs had them on 25 mg 3x a day prior to IVF. What is a mega dose though, is probably related to what your levels are to begin wiith - a high dose for one person may not be for another. There are studies DHEA improves egg quality and IVF success rates in women - spec those with DOR. So I am guessing many women with DOR have low DHEA to begin with.
If you are going to IVF for male factor - what you are taking sounds good. I am also taking the CoQ10 and take an alternating Fish oil sup/Omega oils sup.
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