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Old Nov 13th, 2010, 19:42 PM   51
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Lol, hope your GP does it for you! It makes so much more sense to have the blood results to review with your FS!



 
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Old Nov 13th, 2010, 20:41 PM   52
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hi ladies, iv recently had some blood work done due to my letual phase being only 10/11 days and occasional spotting before that and made a very interseting discovery...i have an UNDERACTIVE THYROID. Basically your TSH(thyroid stymulating hormone) level is at its safest below 2 and mine was 4.79 . My progesterone was checked and it was normal and i was definatly ovulating. Since being diagnosed with this i have read ALOT about it on the net and discovered that if your thyroid isnt working as it should then your whole body and its hormones are out of sync causing lots of problems and symptoms that you wouldnt think to relate to that,a short luteal phase being one of them and if you did happen to fall pregnant there is a strong possibility of misscarriage. Apparently it is said tio be the main cause of misscarriage,premature birth,still birth and pre-eclampsia but as its not tested as routine then its never picked up on. My doc sais that under normal circumstances it wouldnt be treated untill it gets to level 10 but as im ttc and its causing problems then she has put me on a 25mcg of levothyroxine to bring my level down,the reason they dont like to treat it untill it gets to that level is probably because here in england if your diagnosed with it then all prescriptions are free and the medication is for LIFE as once the thyroid is over or underactive then it never gets better on its own ot only get worse and has to be kept under control with meds(1 tablet evry morning). I have been taking them for 12 days now and i have to say i feel fantastic and i have already ovulated a day earlier,im yet to see if has had an effect on my luteal phase but it takes time to get themeds right for each person it may have to be increased or decreased etc to get the levels within the right range,im due for another blood test in 5 weeks to see how im doing,i am no longer ttc untill its down to at least level 2. I was having symptoms for a coupke of years and have been told iv got stress/anxiety, dandruff(i know!) when my hair started to fall out more than usual, IBS because i was getting cronic constipation. Now i realise it was all down to that. here is a list of SYMPTOMS: Tiredness,sleeping alot/ depression/ constipation / thinning hair/ brittle nails/ weight gain,fluid retention/ memory loss,confusion/ brain fog/ dry skin/ aching muscles/ feeling cold/problems concieving/ feeling you cant cope with stuff/ loss of sex drive.
I have had all this for along time but hadnt connected it with anything and started to get usee to feeling like i did and thought it was normal and its not untill i started the meds that iv realised how tired and depressed i actuallty was, i feel great now,iv got my energy back,my nailos have started to grow,my dry skin has got better,my brain,thinking is much better, everything feels better and im really optimistic about ttc now whereas before i was so negative that it wouldnt happen and i felt sad all the time and ready to give up . Nornmaly docs wont give the test unless you either ask for t or your symtoms are that bad that its suspected,by alot of the time its bypasses and the sypmtoms are treated rather than the cause. luckily i have a young female doc who is all for testing and understands the heartache of ttc with no luck. GET TESTED! even if its just to rule it out xxxxx



 
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Old Nov 13th, 2010, 20:47 PM   53
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P.S whe your pregnant the demand on your thyroid is alot higher and has to be tested every 4 weeks if your on meds for it to make sure it stays normal because for the 1st 12 weeks the baby doesnt have a thyroid gland and is dependant on yours and if its underactive then it can cause misscarriage. xx



 
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Old Nov 13th, 2010, 20:50 PM   54
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Great info sam!
Funny though, at least at my doctor's and most of the US girls I know, testing the thyroid is one of the first things a doctor does. My doc tested it before letting my try clomid. I had many of the same symptoms you listed, but they must be unrelated because my thryoid was fine! (I almost wish I had a thyroid problem because then all those symptoms would be fixable! )



 
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Old Nov 13th, 2010, 21:04 PM   55
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Really,maybe its just here in england then,maybe because it means free medication and prescriptions for anything for the rest of your life when normally we would pay for it,i dont know the way the goverment works in england is so wrong with alot of things.
well maybe if someone reads that hasnt been tested then it might prompt them to. Now im thinking though if you had the same symptoms as me and it wasnt your thyroid i may have other issued aswell as that and the meds might not do anything for my luteal phase..i hope not xx



 
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Old Nov 13th, 2010, 21:41 PM   56
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I had low progesterone from repeated tests.. so yours may very well be linked to your thyroid. I have struggled with depression which caused weight gain, lack of motivation etc etc etc etc, lol... its probably not tied to thyroid/fertility for me... just chemical imbalance.



 
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Old Nov 16th, 2010, 11:18 AM   57
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Lol, hope your GP does it for you! It makes so much more sense to have the blood results to review with your FS!
Hi Lisa, just to let you know I had a progesterone blood test done today by my GP I managed to talk him round

The only thing is I'm only 6dpo but it was the only day they could do it and the only time I could have off work. Do you think 6dpo will be ok? I get my results on Thursday.

Thanks for your help and hope you're well xx



 
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Old Nov 16th, 2010, 15:39 PM   58
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6dpo should be fine.. if its the teensiest bit off of 'normal' then you can probably assume it reached normal by then. (if its within 1 or 2 points of normal).
If its much lower then it probably wouldnt' have gotten there at 7dpo anyway.



 
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Old Nov 18th, 2010, 14:32 PM   59
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Thanks lisa

My doctors surgery was closed this afternoon, so I couldn't get my results. Grr!

Just out of interest what is a normal level of progesterone after ov?

If it's low, should I ask my GP for any meds incase I'm pregnant now (unlikely though!) or just wait until I see my fs on Monday? xx



 
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Old Nov 18th, 2010, 14:45 PM   60
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You're in the UK, right? The normal minimum they like to see is 30... if its 28 or so you are probably fine. If its 19 or so, thats 'borderline'... basically ovulatory but low (which was my issue).
If its low, you could ask for progesterone suppositories, but they don't usually give them to you unless you are already pregnant. The exceptions to that are if you have had repeated miscarriages before or have tested repeatedly low for progesterone after ovulation. Once you are pregnant, you can get a progesterone check along with your HCG an see if its in the normal range.. it usually goes up when you are pregnant so it COULD go up to normal levels on its own.

Hope that helps!



 
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