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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 09:06 AM   1
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Estrogen dominance, anyone familiar?


Let me preface by saying, DH and I have been TTC for 18 months. I was treated for infertility starting in August 2009, given meds, got preg in Sept and m/c'd in December. We've only been back to the ol' TTC game for 3 months now but I'm really getting discouraged and I'm not feeling too positive that we'll ever get preg. I quit taking the meds, too, by the way.
I went and saw an herbalist yesterday. She's told me I'm estrogen dominant but didn't listen too much to what I had to say. She showed me a list of symptoms of this and I have 11 and anything more than 3 is considered estrogen dominant. She told me I'm not ovulating but according to my BBT chart, I am. I'm supposed to have another appt with her tonight because she wants to start me on progesterone cream and a few other things to help.
I'm very confused about all of this. I'm not sure she's right. I did have 11 of the symptoms but they were pretty vague Headache, fatigue, weight gain, infertility, miscarriage, irritability-yeah, ok, I have these things but I work full-time, have a 4 year old and I'm back in school working on my bachelor's degree!
Does anyone have any experience with any of this or any advice?



 
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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 09:13 AM   2
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I don't have any experience of that, but if those are the symptoms I would imagine 90% of women would be classed as estrogen dominant!!

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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 09:49 AM   3
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exactly!!!



 
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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 09:52 AM   4
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Go see your GP, it'll be more accurate to diagnose something. Herbalist can't diagnose health issues.



 
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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 11:17 AM   5
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I thought estrogen dominance symptoms were much more specific..including things like hairloss, severe irritability..( not plain irritability, all women can be that way) severe symptoms, not such vague qualities?



 
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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 12:18 PM   6
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I was so convinced I was estrogen dominant as well!!!! I put on quite a bit of weight inexplicably, my hair was thinning, and I wasn't able to conceive after months of trying. I diagnosed myself from google (lol)! But when I went to check my hormone levels...I was told I was ovulating. Really weird!

I started taking some meds (GNLD's Female Herbal Complex) and it reduced the symptoms significantly. I am now on Pregnacare Conception and feel soo much better. The bloating has reduced and my hair is back to looking lustrous! Still ttc, but really really hoping this will be my month this time!

You could see your Gynae and hear whay he/she has to say though.....but never underestimate these herbalists.



 
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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 12:36 PM   7
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Mrs. Mommy- from the book that I was given, the symptoms are vague and non-descriptive. Every list I've found online is the same. I had been diagnosed with PCOS 6 months ago when given the medication only to find out I didn't actually have it, only the symptoms which are just the same as estrogen dominance.

Isi- I had my hormone levels checked also and I was told I was ovulating as well although you would think that if I am actually ovulating, at some point other than when I was on the Letrozole, I would have gotten pregnant. I also have the bloating but no hair loss. I'm bloated about 20 days a month (like today and even my pant legs feel tight)but for awhile I had attributed it to my IBS. I have called my GYN, the nurse is speaking to her and calling back.



 
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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 13:19 PM   8
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I looked into this a while ago - I was really looking at getting a bit fitter and loosing the center flab which was starting to build up recently.
The list of possible symptoms is quite long and apparently most women over 35 are likely to have this to some degree - largely due to unnatural oestogens in food and the environment (hormones given to animals, hormones in the water you drink), which unbalances the hormone system as you get older.

The main thing is changing your diet and eating a good balanced diet, and cutting out fatty meat and products which contain bad oestrogens, then eating things like sesame or flax seed which supply good oestogens.


Search for "From Belly Fat to Belly Flat" on Google books
(sorry can't post a link)

I actually ordered this from Amazon, but most of the main sections of the book is available on google books.
It does have some good infirmation, but not sure I would follow everything - the supplements they suggest would work out very expensive.



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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 13:26 PM   9
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I am not familiar with this, but I have to say, you can't make accurate diagnosis by just looking at symptoms. If you had your hormone levels checked then I would say that is definitely more reliable.

TTC has made me soo irritable, moody etc. I get headaches on and off, especially as part of PMS symptoms. I am bloated if I eat too much starch. And I have been losing a lot more stress - possibly 'cause of TTC related stress. That shouldn't lead me to believe I have a problem unless the doc diagnoses based on medical tests!

I think you are right to take your herbalists recommendations with a pinch of salt.



 
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Old Apr 13th, 2010, 14:14 PM   10
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I'm really not too sure I'm going back to see her tonight. She didn't listen well enough. And you're right, you can't base diagnoses on symptomology alone. I was looking for someone who was 100% diagnosed with estrogen dominance so I can compare symptoms to find out if I have it or if it's something different. Obviously, I'm not normal



 
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