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Old Feb 14th, 2011, 14:38 PM   11
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I've taken a pre-nat vitamin (with folic acid) since 3 mos before we started TTC. Good nutrients are very important to the baby, as well as you during pregnancy. Unfortunately, most adults don't get all the nutrients they need from diet alone.

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Old Feb 14th, 2011, 14:43 PM   12
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I read that if you're eating enough foods with folic acid, taking more can mean too much which can also be dangerous. I view vitamins of any kind as a way to replace nutrients we don't get through food, and if I eat the right foods, I don't find them needed. But always talk to your doctor...
I've never heard this. Could I ask what you've read, and what the dangers were said to be?

It is true that vitamin supplements are not a substitute for a healthy diet in most respects, but I do believe that taking folic acid when trying to conceive falls outside of this advice and is one of the few vitamin supplements that all doctors recommend.

In the UK the dept. of Health specifically recommends it and say on the NHS website " it would be almost impossible to get enough folic acid just from food; the only way to be sure you are getting the right amount is by taking a supplement.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/913.aspx...categoryid=129
I know in a place like Japan that women do not take folic acid or other prenatal vitamins but their diet is heavily dark-leafy vegetable based (ie kale), and let's be honest most western women hardly eat 1 vegetable a day! So I think folic acid is a must.



 
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Old Feb 14th, 2011, 14:51 PM   13
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I read that if you're eating enough foods with folic acid, taking more can mean too much which can also be dangerous. I view vitamins of any kind as a way to replace nutrients we don't get through food, and if I eat the right foods, I don't find them needed. But always talk to your doctor...
I've never heard this. Could I ask what you've read, and what the dangers were said to be?

It is true that vitamin supplements are not a substitute for a healthy diet in most respects, but I do believe that taking folic acid when trying to conceive falls outside of this advice and is one of the few vitamin supplements that all doctors recommend.

In the UK the dept. of Health specifically recommends it and say on the NHS website " it would be almost impossible to get enough folic acid just from food; the only way to be sure you are getting the right amount is by taking a supplement.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/913.aspx...categoryid=129
I know in a place like Japan that women do not take folic acid or other prenatal vitamins but their diet is heavily dark-leafy vegetable based (ie kale), and let's be honest most western women hardly eat 1 vegetable a day! So I think folic acid is a must.
Interesting - are you in Japan? I found this table comparing the % rec intake in the UK and Japan for several vits for preggo women, and actually in Japan the % folic is one of the few that has a higher rec?

http://www.stippy.com/japan-life/get...nt-in-japan-4/

Confusing huh?



 
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I'm on my phone so I will clarify with citation when I get home. Sorry if I was confusing.



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I read that if you're eating enough foods with folic acid, taking more can mean too much which can also be dangerous. I view vitamins of any kind as a way to replace nutrients we don't get through food, and if I eat the right foods, I don't find them needed. But always talk to your doctor...
I've never heard this. Could I ask what you've read, and what the dangers were said to be?

It is true that vitamin supplements are not a substitute for a healthy diet in most respects, but I do believe that taking folic acid when trying to conceive falls outside of this advice and is one of the few vitamin supplements that all doctors recommend.

In the UK the dept. of Health specifically recommends it and say on the NHS website " it would be almost impossible to get enough folic acid just from food; the only way to be sure you are getting the right amount is by taking a supplement.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/913.aspx...categoryid=129
I know in a place like Japan that women do not take folic acid or other prenatal vitamins but their diet is heavily dark-leafy vegetable based (ie kale), and let's be honest most western women hardly eat 1 vegetable a day! So I think folic acid is a must.
Interesting - are you in Japan? I found this table comparing the % rec intake in the UK and Japan for several vits for preggo women, and actually in Japan the % folic is one of the few that has a higher rec?

http://www.stippy.com/japan-life/get...nt-in-japan-4/

Confusing huh?
Interesting article! I'm not in Japan but I teach ESL on the pacific coast, lots of Japanese students. I have found over and over again that there is a sentiment amongst Japanese women to not take prenatal vitamins, somewhat of a cultural perspective. It's nothing against prenatals - it's just something that isn't promoted or spoken about. Most of my students are in their 30's or older so perhaps that is more of an older perspective and things are changing. I would also wager to guess that the Japanese diet of 30+ years ago was a lot healthier than it is today.



 
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I read that if you're eating enough foods with folic acid, taking more can mean too much which can also be dangerous. I view vitamins of any kind as a way to replace nutrients we don't get through food, and if I eat the right foods, I don't find them needed. But always talk to your doctor...
I've never heard this. Could I ask what you've read, and what the dangers were said to be?

It is true that vitamin supplements are not a substitute for a healthy diet in most respects, but I do believe that taking folic acid when trying to conceive falls outside of this advice and is one of the few vitamin supplements that all doctors recommend.

In the UK the dept. of Health specifically recommends it and say on the NHS website " it would be almost impossible to get enough folic acid just from food; the only way to be sure you are getting the right amount is by taking a supplement.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/913.aspx...categoryid=129
It is very hard to take too much folic acid. Many women don't take enough, and one little pill can prevent a whole lifetime of trouble. My LO has SB. I ate a healthy diet and took the recommended amount of folic acid but she still has it. Some women have a gene that means their bodies cannot absorb folic acid properly and therefore need 5mg of FA a day (12x the rec'd dose in the UK). I took 5mg's for a day for 4 months, and didn't overdose.



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I read that if you're eating enough foods with folic acid, taking more can mean too much which can also be dangerous. I view vitamins of any kind as a way to replace nutrients we don't get through food, and if I eat the right foods, I don't find them needed. But always talk to your doctor...
I've never heard this. Could I ask what you've read, and what the dangers were said to be?

It is true that vitamin supplements are not a substitute for a healthy diet in most respects, but I do believe that taking folic acid when trying to conceive falls outside of this advice and is one of the few vitamin supplements that all doctors recommend.

In the UK the dept. of Health specifically recommends it and say on the NHS website " it would be almost impossible to get enough folic acid just from food; the only way to be sure you are getting the right amount is by taking a supplement.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/913.aspx...categoryid=129
I know in a place like Japan that women do not take folic acid or other prenatal vitamins but their diet is heavily dark-leafy vegetable based (ie kale), and let's be honest most western women hardly eat 1 vegetable a day! So I think folic acid is a must.
Interesting - are you in Japan? I found this table comparing the % rec intake in the UK and Japan for several vits for preggo women, and actually in Japan the % folic is one of the few that has a higher rec?

http://www.stippy.com/japan-life/get...nt-in-japan-4/

Confusing huh?
Interesting article! I'm not in Japan but I teach ESL on the pacific coast, lots of Japanese students. I have found over and over again that there is a sentiment amongst Japanese women to not take prenatal vitamins, somewhat of a cultural perspective. It's nothing against prenatals - it's just something that isn't promoted or spoken about. Most of my students are in their 30's or older so perhaps that is more of an older perspective and things are changing. I would also wager to guess that the Japanese diet of 30+ years ago was a lot healthier than it is today.
Off Topic: Ooh hello! I run an EFL school!



 
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I read that if you're eating enough foods with folic acid, taking more can mean too much which can also be dangerous. I view vitamins of any kind as a way to replace nutrients we don't get through food, and if I eat the right foods, I don't find them needed. But always talk to your doctor...
I've never heard this. Could I ask what you've read, and what the dangers were said to be?

It is true that vitamin supplements are not a substitute for a healthy diet in most respects, but I do believe that taking folic acid when trying to conceive falls outside of this advice and is one of the few vitamin supplements that all doctors recommend.

In the UK the dept. of Health specifically recommends it and say on the NHS website " it would be almost impossible to get enough folic acid just from food; the only way to be sure you are getting the right amount is by taking a supplement.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/913.aspx...categoryid=129
I know in a place like Japan that women do not take folic acid or other prenatal vitamins but their diet is heavily dark-leafy vegetable based (ie kale), and let's be honest most western women hardly eat 1 vegetable a day! So I think folic acid is a must.
Interesting - are you in Japan? I found this table comparing the % rec intake in the UK and Japan for several vits for preggo women, and actually in Japan the % folic is one of the few that has a higher rec?

http://www.stippy.com/japan-life/get...nt-in-japan-4/

Confusing huh?
Interesting article! I'm not in Japan but I teach ESL on the pacific coast, lots of Japanese students. I have found over and over again that there is a sentiment amongst Japanese women to not take prenatal vitamins, somewhat of a cultural perspective. It's nothing against prenatals - it's just something that isn't promoted or spoken about. Most of my students are in their 30's or older so perhaps that is more of an older perspective and things are changing. I would also wager to guess that the Japanese diet of 30+ years ago was a lot healthier than it is today.
Off Topic: Ooh hello! I run an EFL school!
lol! I never got to do EFL, I got pregnant after finishing my degree and postgraduate TESL certificate! If I was still 20 (or 25... LOL) I would have travelled. I was actually thinking of heading to Hungary (I have dual citizenship) but decided to TTC instead.

So you have a school in Bulgaria? Neato... are you the owner or DOS?



 
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Old Feb 14th, 2011, 15:25 PM   19
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does n e one know also if it is true that if the male takes folic acid it increases sperm count and stuff?



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Old Feb 14th, 2011, 15:56 PM   20
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I've been taking 400mcg of folic acid (it's included in my pregnacare vit) ever since I've started ttc, and my doc said that even though the multiple-vit prenatal is not necessary, the folic acid is. I'm a nutrition freak, meaning that the 80% of what I eat is super healthy, but I' ve read in many a place that nowadays the food that reach us doesn't even contain half the vits it's supposed to contain, so don't wanna risk it.

Given that folic acid helps protect the baby from developing spina bifida, and given that it takes several weeks for your body to absorb it, doctors will advise you to start taking it when you start ttc (that was 10 months ago for me so now I got a body full of absorbed folic acid with no baby to benefit from it but never mind ).

Also beware of drinking green tea. I've read that it contains an ingredient that prevents your organism from absorbing the folic acid, and if I manage to dig out the article I'll post it again.



 
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