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Old Apr 8th, 2017, 14:56 PM   1
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Re-current losses and support


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Looking for support at this very difficult time in my life and to chat with others in the same boat along the way. Hopefully make some good friends who understand exactly what it feels like. I worry quite often if I ever will have another successful pregnancy.

I don't know if i should take this take that my head really does spin sometimes and feel like just letting go lol. I've cut out alcohol, fizzy juice and I'm changing my diet this cycle. Hospitals seem to just fob you off, I've had 2ww spotting from 3dpo onwards.

I have 3 live children, a loss in 2010 but then went onto conceive my daughter Olivia 8 months later with no issues. I then had another girl very quickly no issues. I then became very ill after having her where I was on anti-depressants and I bled every day for a year. I conceived again maybe after 6 proper cycles, passed this baby at 8+6 but wouldn't pass everything and 2 weeks later had a d&c. Conceived again 12 months later lost this one at 5+6 then 14 months later conceived again for a whole 3 days Currently still trying for my rainbow

Sorry this is so long, just wanted to give you my back story and hope to meet some new people



 
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Old Apr 12th, 2017, 21:35 PM   2
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Sorry to read about your losses .

I can definitely relate to the feelings of worry about whether or not you'll be able to have another child..

Our story is that after a year of trying with no luck, we had to do IVF with ICSI. Our issue was my husbands sperm had only a 1-2% morphology rate (meaning there was only a very low number of normal sperm present).
We were very lucky and conceived our son on the first round. We also had 15 embryos to freeze, which were frozen on day 6.

Unfortunately I think this gave a us a false sense of security that it would be easy enough to get pregnant with baby number 2. We did get pregnant with us first frozen embryo transfer in December, but it ended in a natural miscarriage at 5w3d. I then actually got pregnant naturally with my cycle right after, but that was a chemical pregnancy, with bleeding starting at just over the 4 week mark..
We did another transfer in February, and a.though it had all looked great for the first few weeks (the hcg blood tests had been rising nicely), it took a dive at 6 weeks, when a scan showed I was a week behind and there was no heartbeat. A follow up scan at 7 weeks confirmed no major growth, or heart beat (& obviously starting to measure more than a week behind), so I was scheduled for a D&C at 7w3d.

So here I am, almost 2 weeks from the D&C, wondering what the heck is wrong, and why this is all happening when we thought our only issue was my husbands good sperm reaching the egg.
I've done a bunch of blood tests to rule things out with me, but won't have the results for another couple of weeks (& my IVF doc thinks it will all be normal anyway). We did get the pregnancy tissue sent for genetic testing, but again, won't have that back for another few weeks.

We need to wait to get all the results in, and of course wait for my next natural period before we can try again. We've decided we'll probably transfer 2 embryos this time.. As even though it's not necessarily true, we feel it'll up a chances of getting a good embryo.

It's definitely a horrible place in life to be in... as you lose confidence with each miscarriage, and then tend to stress/worry more in the next ones.



 
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Old Apr 20th, 2017, 18:29 PM   3
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Sorry to read about both your losses.

I have been diagnosed with PCOS when I was 12, and was told then that I had a very severe case that would probably lead to me being infertile my entire life.

Last year, at age 26, I had my first natural period and conceived 2 cycles later, but it ended in a very early miscarriage. I knew the baby was gone after 5 weeks, but I carried until 7 weeks. I emotionally couldn't take trying again until this year (the month after our baby would have been born) and I had a chemical pregnancy. Now my husband is the emotional wreck and can't take the thought of trying again for a while.

I just keep questioning myself, asking if my body will actually handle a full pregnancy...



 
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Old Apr 21st, 2017, 09:10 AM   4
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Hi ladies, sorry to hear about all of your losses.

I am in the midst of miscarriage #3 and will probably need a d&c as it doesn't look like my body is going to do this on its own.

I'm going to be referred to a recurrent miscarriage clinic so maybe I'll get some answers there... but right now I have no urge to try again and am seriously contemplating whether we should just count our blessings and remain a one child family.

I would love nothing more than to revisit the issue after a couple of years but unfortunately I'll be 37 next month so I don't really have that option.

The annoying thing is that DH was totally keen to be one and done but I begged and pleaded and cajoled and convinced him that we needed two. And now I feel done but he wants to try again after we get our testing done.



 
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Old Apr 25th, 2017, 06:40 AM   5
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Hi, I am sorry to know about your losses. I wish all your dreams come true. Have you considered seeing yr doc to find out more about the reasons why you can't get pregnant? I would also advise to talk about additional tests (karyotyping, pgs ngs, sperm testing etc) x



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Old May 17th, 2017, 03:44 AM   6
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Sorry to read about your losses .

I can definitely relate to the feelings of worry about whether or not you'll be able to have another child..

Our story is that after a year of trying with no luck, we had to do IVF with ICSI. Our issue was my husbands sperm had only a 1-2% morphology rate (meaning there was only a very low number of normal sperm present).
We were very lucky and conceived our son on the first round. We also had 15 embryos to freeze, which were frozen on day 6.

Unfortunately I think this gave a us a false sense of security that it would be easy enough to get pregnant with baby number 2. We did get pregnant with us first frozen embryo transfer in December, but it ended in a natural miscarriage at 5w3d. I then actually got pregnant naturally with my cycle right after, but that was a chemical pregnancy, with bleeding starting at just over the 4 week mark..
We did another transfer in February, and a.though it had all looked great for the first few weeks (the hcg blood tests had been rising nicely), it took a dive at 6 weeks, when a scan showed I was a week behind and there was no heartbeat. A follow up scan at 7 weeks confirmed no major growth, or heart beat (& obviously starting to measure more than a week behind), so I was scheduled for a D&C at 7w3d.

So here I am, almost 2 weeks from the D&C, wondering what the heck is wrong, and why this is all happening when we thought our only issue was my husbands good sperm reaching the egg.
I've done a bunch of blood tests to rule things out with me, but won't have the results for another couple of weeks (& my IVF doc thinks it will all be normal anyway). We did get the pregnancy tissue sent for genetic testing, but again, won't have that back for another few weeks.

We need to wait to get all the results in, and of course wait for my next natural period before we can try again. We've decided we'll probably transfer 2 embryos this time.. As even though it's not necessarily true, we feel it'll up a chances of getting a good embryo.

It's definitely a horrible place in life to be in... as you lose confidence with each miscarriage, and then tend to stress/worry more in the next ones.
Good luck with this pregnancy. Just wanted to say your OH's situation sounds similar to mine. Low morphology is often associated with high DNA fragmentation - even though it doesn't impact on fertilisation the embryos are often chromosomally abnormal. I have had 3 miscarriages and have been offered icsi with imsi with genetic testing on the embryos (Pgd).

I am torn re whether to go for IVf with PGf or try naturally. I was told out of ten embryos only one or two could be normal. This would explain your losses.

I was also told that the embryo being behind with growth is a classic sign of chromosomal issues. So it's not you - it's the sperm!


http://www.reproductivehealthgroup.c...fragmentation/


Good luck with this pregnancy.



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Old May 17th, 2017, 16:11 PM   7
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Thanks Sweetkat! That's really informative and I hadn't actually even been aware of it, or that it could be an issue (kind of annoys me that my doctor hasn't mentioned it actually). It certainly feels like it fits the current bill... We only managed to get testing done on one of our miscarriages (the most recent one) and it did have a trisomy defect (I'm not sure what number it was, but according to our doctor it's one that is not associated with having an issue with my or hubby, but just badluck).

We did our IVF with ICSI, but I've never heard of imsi - can I ask what that is? Unfortunately we were never encouraged to pgs testing on the embryos (& its too late now that they're frozen), so we don't know how many are normal.

Still we did get our miracle son at least. I do have a friend who has a known issue that means she has a very high chance of having babies with Trisomy 22. She had twins via IVF with all the testing etc. Then last year she got pregnant by surprise (she also has severe endo I should add), and now she is due to give birth to a healthy baby girl.
My scan is this coming Monday, so I'll keep my fingers crossed that maybe we've got another healthy featus growing away in there.

Thanks again - it's good to know these things, especially when some doctors obviously don't.



 
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Old May 18th, 2017, 01:53 AM   8
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KatBar - we also have one DD conceived naturally and very quickly. All the other natural pregnancies were very quick to happen too - and yet my OH only has 4% morphology and between 44 and 51% fragmentation. I don't know if we were lucky with DD but since then have one two definite trisomies and one suspected one and one chemical.

After the last loss which really was awful because my D&C was on what would have been 11 weeks we had karyotype testing, thyroid antibodies, clotting, NK cells, my ovarian reserve (I have near optimal fertility), my uterus. There is nothing else to test.

It could have been just really bad luck, especially as my last loss was trisomy 21 and apparently that's 90% from the mother (but only 0.1% chance at age 35 which is what I was), and still 10% chance of it coming from the father.

Also, most doctors don't even bother testing DNA fragmentation if there is bad morphology as the treatment for them is ICSI or IMSI (same thing but with a greater magnification). I can't face another chromosomal loss so have booked myself in for the first consultation of ICSI with PGD. As in we are going ahead - I have already had the 3D scan and hormone testing back in December so now starting medication in 12 days


As the PGd takes 3 weeks and will need a FET the whole thing is likely to take 3/4 months. So in that way I am torn to just try naturally. Could be pregnant in 3 weeks but then if I get to 11 weeks and need a D&C will be devastated

Let me know how your scan goes. Everything crossed for you and lots of sticky baby dust



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Old May 22nd, 2017, 06:00 AM   9
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KatBar - good luck with your scan today. We are just waiting for a nurse's appointment at the IVF clinic, although I am still torn about whether to go ahead with it.



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Old May 22nd, 2017, 08:15 AM   10
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So we have decided to try naturally for a few more times and if I carry on miscarrying do IVF.



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