Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone - Page 3

Vestirse · Nov 9th, 2008, 21:50 PM

I'm sorry knitpicker's friend! Try Vit B Complex - couldn't hurt right?

littlestar · Nov 10th, 2008, 01:55 AM

I don't think i ovulated until my previous cycle as i never got pos opk unitl day 56.

i've been off pill since march an my longest cycle was 81 days - with no ovulation. but i was on the pill for 13years was made to go on it as a teenager as my cycles were scatty (6week bleed nearly made me ill) i was soo scare to come off them in case it went back that way - now i will honestly tell you i will never ever go back on a pill (hubby ok with condoms)

adzuki · Nov 10th, 2008, 09:27 AM

Howdy!

I am noticing as I chart for the second month, that my temps are close to my baseline - and on two occasions, at the baseline. Considering that I am 6DPO, this is a concern! I've read that this could indicate low progesterone so I am reading about that. Would it be at all beneficial for me to start taking B6/Bcompound now?

Thanks!

A

Vestirse · Nov 10th, 2008, 10:30 AM

I've read that too. I think this late in the game, natural progesterone cream might be your best bet. Vit B6 is supposed promote the health of the follicle as it matures. Because it makes the follicle healthier, the corpus luteum (what is left behind when the follicle pops off) is also thus healthier and produces progesterone for a longer period of time (if your LP was short and the corpus luteum was causing it to be so short).

Since your egg has already popped off. I don't see how B6.B-Complex will help at this point in time, Natural progesterone cream however might if progesterone is what you lack.

adzuki · Nov 10th, 2008, 13:07 PM

That makes a lot of sense, thanks!!!!

Anyone have any recommendations for a progesterone cream? I guess I better get on this, cuz if the eggy is fertilized, it should be trying to implant soon!!!

A

Vestirse · Nov 10th, 2008, 13:36 PM

You'll probably be able to find one at a natural foods store. I've hear ones with wild yam as an ingredient are better because it might be synthetic apparently if wild yam was not used. good luck!!

adzuki · Nov 10th, 2008, 22:23 PM

I found some wild yam stuff, but then I heard that it contains estrogen as well, and was intended for menopausal women. Will it still work, or will the estrogen negate the effects of the progesterone??

Vestirse · Nov 10th, 2008, 23:34 PM

I'm so sorry, but I remembered it wrong. You should actually AVOID the ones with Wild Yam. I'm so sorry, I just went back and had a look around. I researched progesterone five months ago when I was getting serious, along with some other stuff. I remember it talking about Wild Yam and somehow remembered it as being better, but it's the other way around!!

SORRY SORRY SORRY!!!

EDIT: You know what, I'm confused now. A bunch of people say Wild Yam Root as an ingredient doesn't do crap and to avoid buying it because it's a waste of money. Yet the most recommended progesterone cream I can find on the ttc boards contains ... you guessed it... WILD YAM.

It's this one btw: http://www.happypmscream.com/progest...ngredients.htm

Beyond Fertility sells it too: http://www.beyondfertility.com/catalog.php?item=5

I also saw this recommended a few times on some PCOS boards: http://www.energeticnutrition.com/vi...progcream.html

I got a kick out of the warning on the bottom of the page though:

Quote:

Warning: Do not use if you are pregnant, lactating, or intend to become pregnant. For external use only. Avoid contact with eyes. Use intended for adults 18 years of age and older. Keep out of the reach of children. Do not exceed 2 oz. of the cream, or 0.5 oz. of the Mist, topically per month. Consult with a licensed health care practioner if you experience irritation, redness, or discomfort, any changes in breasts or menstrual irregularities, or before using this product if you have concerns about your health or if you have a medical condition.

In short - I am starting to have doubts about this stuff. Would you consider jsut waiting until the next cycle to start a B-Complex? Because the contradictory stuff I'm reading is scaring the crap out of me.

Vestirse · Nov 10th, 2008, 23:56 PM

Oh yea - John Lee. This guy's name came up a lot and here are some creams this "doctor" recommends:
http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resou...gesterone.html

The one I found recommended on the PCOS boards is there. The "happy pms" cream containing wild yam is not.

If you truly want to try NPC (natural progesterone cream), maybe the list he gives will give you a good start.

Vestirse · Nov 11th, 2008, 01:36 AM

Umm, looking at your chart, I DO NOT think it is indicative of low progesterone!!!! My advice is not to try natural progesterone cream - you don't need it. I agree that your coverline is too high and it is probably the culprit in making it looked skewed to you. Coverline though is not scientific. It is just a tool used to help those who chart see a clear biphasic pattern.

You should put your chart in your sig!!

xposted on your thread about your FF chart.

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Vestirse Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Nerdville - Silicon Valley Posts: 5,588	I'm sorry knitpicker's friend! Try Vit B Complex - couldn't hurt right?

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Nov 10th, 2008, 01:55 AM	#22
littlestar Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nottingham, England Posts: 3,328	I don't think i ovulated until my previous cycle as i never got pos opk unitl day 56. i've been off pill since march an my longest cycle was 81 days - with no ovulation. but i was on the pill for 13years was made to go on it as a teenager as my cycles were scatty (6week bleed nearly made me ill) i was soo scare to come off them in case it went back that way - now i will honestly tell you i will never ever go back on a pill (hubby ok with condoms)

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adzuki Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vancouver. BC Posts: 5,154	Howdy! I am noticing as I chart for the second month, that my temps are close to my baseline - and on two occasions, at the baseline. Considering that I am 6DPO, this is a concern! I've read that this could indicate low progesterone so I am reading about that. Would it be at all beneficial for me to start taking B6/Bcompound now? Thanks! A

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Nov 10th, 2008, 10:30 AM	#24
Vestirse Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Nerdville - Silicon Valley Posts: 5,588	I've read that too. I think this late in the game, natural progesterone cream might be your best bet. Vit B6 is supposed promote the health of the follicle as it matures. Because it makes the follicle healthier, the corpus luteum (what is left behind when the follicle pops off) is also thus healthier and produces progesterone for a longer period of time (if your LP was short and the corpus luteum was causing it to be so short). Since your egg has already popped off. I don't see how B6.B-Complex will help at this point in time, Natural progesterone cream however might if progesterone is what you lack.

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Nov 10th, 2008, 13:07 PM	#25
adzuki Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vancouver. BC Posts: 5,154	That makes a lot of sense, thanks!!!! Anyone have any recommendations for a progesterone cream? I guess I better get on this, cuz if the eggy is fertilized, it should be trying to implant soon!!! A

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Nov 10th, 2008, 13:36 PM	#26
Vestirse Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Nerdville - Silicon Valley Posts: 5,588	You'll probably be able to find one at a natural foods store. I've hear ones with wild yam as an ingredient are better because it might be synthetic apparently if wild yam was not used. good luck!!

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Nov 10th, 2008, 22:23 PM	#27
adzuki Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vancouver. BC Posts: 5,154	I found some wild yam stuff, but then I heard that it contains estrogen as well, and was intended for menopausal women. Will it still work, or will the estrogen negate the effects of the progesterone??

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Nov 10th, 2008, 23:56 PM	#29
Vestirse Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Nerdville - Silicon Valley Posts: 5,588	Oh yea - John Lee. This guy's name came up a lot and here are some creams this "doctor" recommends: http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resou...gesterone.html The one I found recommended on the PCOS boards is there. The "happy pms" cream containing wild yam is not. If you truly want to try NPC (natural progesterone cream), maybe the list he gives will give you a good start.

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Nov 11th, 2008, 01:36 AM	#30
Vestirse Mum (Mom) BnB Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Nerdville - Silicon Valley Posts: 5,588	Umm, looking at your chart, I DO NOT think it is indicative of low progesterone!!!! My advice is not to try natural progesterone cream - you don't need it. I agree that your coverline is too high and it is probably the culprit in making it looked skewed to you. Coverline though is not scientific. It is just a tool used to help those who chart see a clear biphasic pattern. You should put your chart in your sig!! xposted on your thread about your FF chart.

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