Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid! - Page 746

jjnn20 · Apr 4th, 2012, 13:36 PM

Hiya ladies

.. I am hoping to start on the SOY tonight, would appreciate some advice

.. So firstly the only vits I could find were in holland and barrett and are called soya isoflavones.. Not soy isoflavones, I'm guessing and hoping that these are bothe the same things tho right :/ !? Lol thought ide just check! ..

And providing they are, my cycles are very irregular as you can see from my signature.. I'm thinking of starting the soya tonight which is cycle day 3 as AF arrived properly on Monday, do you think that is best for me days 3-7 ? And how much do you think I should take ??

Xx

Bean66 · Apr 4th, 2012, 16:13 PM

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Hi Ladies

I am TTC#1 on my first cycle and I will be starting soy today. I am a little concerned that I am starting kind of late CD5 (only because I couldnt find the bloody things anywhere lol!) any advice on dosage etc. or anything else I should know? I totally new to soy and hope it will increase my chances of a fast bfp.

I already O normally is this OK? I am hoping that it will sort of just give my chances a bit of a boost.

any help would be super appreciated!!

Not trying to discourage you in any way, but I would encourage you if this is your 1st cycle to just try opk & time BD with ovulation. Soy can have negative side effects such as affecting your thyroid production and cause ovarian cysts if you don't really need it. So my advice is not to take it until you have tried for 3-4 cycles without it. (average chance of getting pregnant is around 25% each cycle so 3 or 4 months would normally be enough before you consider additional things.

If you want to increase your chances without putting possible bad effects in your body you could buy soft cups & preseed to encourage sperm retention and movement within your uterus.

Best of luck to you.x

Completely agree with this. Don't mess with something that doesn't need fixing.

hopefulmom2 · Apr 4th, 2012, 21:28 PM

this has been a long thread, trying to read it and having my computer almost crash in the middle of it. Its taken me almost a week to get through it. I have gotten soy isoflavones from Walmart 40mg. I took out Nuvaring on March 5th, started the withdrawal bleed on March 8th. I am now just waiting on my cycle to restart itself. Last time I stopped it for a couple months it skipped a month and had to go back on it.
I have vitex but not really wanting to take anything, letting my cycle get back to normal, I took a ic and it was bfn, so I know I am not pg. I have red raspberry tea leaves, and baby aspirin 81mg chewables. Might look into the Pre-seed at CVS since I have been researching and its been said to be sold there. Not sure about soft cups since my cervix is tilted and I got pg before but we bd from behind. She is 6 years old and wants a sibling. Any advice ladies? I was giving myself until middle of next week and if no AF I was going to call the dr to see if their fertility clinic can help.

Bean66 · Apr 5th, 2012, 01:32 AM

Hopefulmom2 - just give your body time. It takes a few ladies a few months to get regular cycles again. You'll probably still O so just bd regularly until you're cycles are more predictable. Then maybe do a hpt now and then incase you caught an egg.

I wouldn't rush into soy yet. Possible read up
on vitex as this doesn't work as a hormone itself but supports the pituritary to help with hormone balance. But again I'd wait at least another month before starting.

Good luck.

Hotpink_Mom · Apr 5th, 2012, 06:40 AM

This cycle is completely drivin me mad.

hopefulmom2 · Apr 5th, 2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bean66

Hopefulmom2 - just give your body time. It takes a few ladies a few months to get regular cycles again. You'll probably still O so just bd regularly until you're cycles are more predictable. Then maybe do a hpt now and then incase you caught an egg.

I wouldn't rush into soy yet. Possible read up
on vitex as this doesn't work as a hormone itself but supports the pituritary to help with hormone balance. But again I'd wait at least another month before starting.

Good luck.

Thanks, I am planning on waiting until I get reg again. When I was ttc last time to have dd It took me 15 months to finally get pg. I was on the bcp from the age of 14 to 21 without. I stopped taking them Jan 2004 and I didnt end up getting pg until the following June. I know it takes a few months as I have stopped the nuvaring before and it skipped a month but then the following month I got it. I go to the dr today for another reason but will give my body time to adjust without the nuvaring.
I am not going to take anything until it returns, I just have it here just in case. It might not even be needed, but me and my younger sister who is ttc for more than 6 years she has pcos and overweight I am giving her advice, shes planning on taking vitex to bring on her period then start soy. I hope it works for them. she keeps getting her hopes shot down but she doesnt have a period at all and going on bcp isnt a plan for her.

brownie929 · Apr 7th, 2012, 06:34 AM

Right then, big surprise to me AF started yesterday morning. No O detected this past cycle, but my cycle length did go from 53 days to 38.
Gonna try another cycle with soy before I take 2-3 off. CD 3-7 a bit higher dose.
Wish me luck guys!

Just_married · Apr 7th, 2012, 07:28 AM

We are squeezing in a soy cycle before we see specialist on may 8th. This is our 14th cycle of ttc, our third using soy. Going for days 5-9 again, but sticking on a low dose as the pain I had last time tells me it was too much. This is DH 4th month being teetotal so fingers crossed we will see the benefit of that and all the other changes made. If doesn't work this cycle that will be a year of ttc with no bfp. My AF is due on our 1st anniversary which we are spending in a holiday cottage so here's hoping!

Kmae · Apr 7th, 2012, 18:23 PM

Hopefulmom2, hopefully your cycles get back to normal soon and that you won't need to use anything!

Brownie, great that your cycle length was shorter but hopefully it wii be shorter AND you'll ov this next cycle!

Just married, I hope you get your BFP and won't need to even see a fertility specialist- but it's great that ou have taken the next steps just in case.

I'm on cd16 but no sign of ov yet. I just won the bid for a CBFM to use for next cycle if this one isn't successful. Ive been prescribed clomid for next cycle and want to be sure I do everything I can to be sure I catch the ov!

Just_married · Apr 8th, 2012, 17:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_married

We are squeezing in a soy cycle before we see specialist on may 8th. This is our 14th cycle of ttc, our third using soy. Going for days 5-9 again, but sticking on a low dose as the pain I had last time tells me it was too much. This is DH 4th month being teetotal so fingers crossed we will see the benefit of that and all the other changes made. If doesn't work this cycle that will be a year of ttc with no bfp. My AF is due on our 1st anniversary which we are spending in a holiday cottage so here's hoping!

Don't understand why, but had the mother of all headaches today, had to leave church service due to nausea, you can imagine what everyone thought ironically, never had this headache last two cycles with soy.

Apr 4th, 2012, 13:36 PM	#7451
jjnn20 Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 74	Hiya ladies .. I am hoping to start on the SOY tonight, would appreciate some advice .. So firstly the only vits I could find were in holland and barrett and are called soya isoflavones.. Not soy isoflavones, I'm guessing and hoping that these are bothe the same things tho right :/ !? Lol thought ide just check! .. And providing they are, my cycles are very irregular as you can see from my signature.. I'm thinking of starting the soya tonight which is cycle day 3 as AF arrived properly on Monday, do you think that is best for me days 3-7 ? And how much do you think I should take ?? Xx

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hopefulmom2 Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 163	this has been a long thread, trying to read it and having my computer almost crash in the middle of it. Its taken me almost a week to get through it. I have gotten soy isoflavones from Walmart 40mg. I took out Nuvaring on March 5th, started the withdrawal bleed on March 8th. I am now just waiting on my cycle to restart itself. Last time I stopped it for a couple months it skipped a month and had to go back on it. I have vitex but not really wanting to take anything, letting my cycle get back to normal, I took a ic and it was bfn, so I know I am not pg. I have red raspberry tea leaves, and baby aspirin 81mg chewables. Might look into the Pre-seed at CVS since I have been researching and its been said to be sold there. Not sure about soft cups since my cervix is tilted and I got pg before but we bd from behind. She is 6 years old and wants a sibling. Any advice ladies? I was giving myself until middle of next week and if no AF I was going to call the dr to see if their fertility clinic can help.

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Apr 5th, 2012, 01:32 AM	#7454
Bean66 Other BnB Addict Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: London Posts: 5,280	Hopefulmom2 - just give your body time. It takes a few ladies a few months to get regular cycles again. You'll probably still O so just bd regularly until you're cycles are more predictable. Then maybe do a hpt now and then incase you caught an egg. I wouldn't rush into soy yet. Possible read up on vitex as this doesn't work as a hormone itself but supports the pituritary to help with hormone balance. But again I'd wait at least another month before starting. Good luck.

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Hotpink_Mom Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,871	This cycle is completely drivin me mad.

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brownie929 Mum (Mom) Active BnB Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London Posts: 111	Right then, big surprise to me AF started yesterday morning. No O detected this past cycle, but my cycle length did go from 53 days to 38. Gonna try another cycle with soy before I take 2-3 off. CD 3-7 a bit higher dose. Wish me luck guys!

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Apr 7th, 2012, 07:28 AM	#7458
Just_married Trying to conceive (TTC) Active BnB Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Scotland Posts: 618	We are squeezing in a soy cycle before we see specialist on may 8th. This is our 14th cycle of ttc, our third using soy. Going for days 5-9 again, but sticking on a low dose as the pain I had last time tells me it was too much. This is DH 4th month being teetotal so fingers crossed we will see the benefit of that and all the other changes made. If doesn't work this cycle that will be a year of ttc with no bfp. My AF is due on our 1st anniversary which we are spending in a holiday cottage so here's hoping!

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Apr 7th, 2012, 18:23 PM	#7459
Kmae Other Active BnB Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northern California Posts: 638	Hopefulmom2, hopefully your cycles get back to normal soon and that you won't need to use anything! Brownie, great that your cycle length was shorter but hopefully it wii be shorter AND you'll ov this next cycle! Just married, I hope you get your BFP and won't need to even see a fertility specialist- but it's great that ou have taken the next steps just in case. I'm on cd16 but no sign of ov yet. I just won the bid for a CBFM to use for next cycle if this one isn't successful. Ive been prescribed clomid for next cycle and want to be sure I do everything I can to be sure I catch the ov!

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