I think the pill has caused my spotting. It's not right to pump our body with hormones for several years when we are only fertile up to 5 days a month. I wish I took more interest in my body a long time ago.xxx

baddream- welcome to B&B! Thank you for sharing your story with us, it's always good to get different opinons.

To be honest I really don't know if it's the lp or high estrogens that makes the spotting. I do think that it may be different depending on the person.

I have PCOS and I know that ppl with pcos tend to have low progesterone cause the estrogen tend to dominate mainly but it varies.
I was also on the bloody pill for 12 years until i decided to TTC, long journey for me just to get AF let alone TTC!

Anyway I do hope that maybe with our experiences we may be able to improve the sotting so please keep posting if you have good results!
Docts are not really willing to help, they always go for the quick solution which is not always the best if you are TTC!

I tried to use the progesterone cream on my last AF but didnt work, baddream which one did you buy? I have bouth BIOVEA.

I have started soy iso but a low dose so will see how it goes this month.

I’ve been super swamped with work lately and some family stuff in the evenings. Going to my doctor tonight for my bloodtest/ultrasound/pap results and going to DHs doctor on Saturday to talk about hormone tests and Clomid. So glad to see the thread is still going and that some new ladies have joined. Hope to get my butt back on BnB in a couple days.

Love and baby dust

Thanks for responding, Soili and Sunny!

I agree with both of you regarding the high estrogen not properly balancing the progesterone. (I still think it's BCP related...the thought that all of those years I was tricking my body with fake hormones and not thinking anything of it makes me wonder how I could have thought that everything would be hunky dory later in life.)

Anyway, I wanted to update you. So today is Thursday. I started spotting Tuesday morning, (8 dpo) and have been applying progesterone cream twice a day since that night (a total of 4 applications so far). I spotted on Wednesday too. I am about to hit you with some TMI, but I spot heaviest (usually red blood) during and directly after a BM. Well, this morning, after my BM, there was the TINIEST little bit of brown spotting on the TP, (it was beige, really) hardly anything compared to what it usually would be on 10 dpo for me. This is a HUGE improvement! I am very excited about this.

I am going to continue the cream until my AF is due (next Monday), and then I'm going to start it again 3 dpo on my next cycle. I'll keep you all updated.

Oh, and I try to avoid xenoestrogens too, since maybe we're all suffering from estrogen dominance. I try to eat organic meats and dairy, and no soy products. I'm going to continue that as well.

Oh, and the progesterone cream I'm using is "Femgest". It took me quite some time to find out if it is USP, but I did verify that it is. It was pretty darned cheap too. And I still feel fabulous!

Not only that, but my appetite decreased noticably since I've started using it. Usually at this point in my cycle, I'm ravenous and I'm craving baked goods and Doritos (i.e. CARBS!) like no one's business. I have gained 20 pounds since this spotting thing started, and I'm only 5'2", so that's no good. I'm pretty sure it's hormonal, because I even went to a personal trainer for 6 months and worked my buns off...and I barely lost a pound. I used to be able to lose 3 pounds by skipping lunch. So this was a drastic change for me. It makes sense that it's caused by out-of-whack hormones.

I'll keep you all posted!

that's a good result baddream, i don't think i applied enough cream then, it was only once in the evening and not that much, about the size of a pea. I think also it depends on what cream you use, not sure if the one i bought is good so I will be checking yours thanks!
Soya is good if you eat it before O, then it's def best to reduce the amount of soy. I drink soya every morning, but i know if you drink around 20mg a day there is no harm. At the moment I'm taking soy iso on day 3-7 and eating soy so my intake is about 80mg, hopefully i will see some difference later.

Hey guys! I'm 15DPO today, expecting my AF to show up any time today. Been spotting pretty much every day since 5DPO this cycle, but still got to 15DPO. So definitely not an issue with short LP for me. I'll let you know what my doctor's going to say about all this, got an appointment in 10 days.

My spotting started today and I'm gutted. I suppose the good news is that soy got me to 9DPO before the spotting started which is 2 days improvement from last month and 3 days improvement from when I was not taking B-vits. I think I will have to go to the doctors to get progesterone supplements.
Arghh I hate this stupid spotting
Better luck next time I suppose xxx

hi girls

I'm feeling so fed up with this spotting. Started spotting on ov day and for 2 days after. I then didn't spot for a day and then it started up again. I know it's going to be like this for a week until i get my AF now..... So fed up with it all. Been taking b vits for 3 mths and agnus castus for 2. Don't think they are making any difference so just going to stop them I think. Might try maca in a couple of months if no luck. Don't think i have low progesterone as i had that tested in my cd21 bloods and it came back fine. I agree, i'm sure it's being on the pill for so many years that's caused all of this. It just gets me so down each month when the spotting starts as i automatically think i must be out.

happyshopper- the fact the soy made the difference of two days it's still a good sign, early days for me so I don't have any updates yet.

Soili let us know what the doc says!